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October 4, 2010 at 11:17 pm #4686Trick_x_MasterMember
Should I see a psychiatrist about this issue? Would they know what to do when even a super small dose of an ssri has massive effects on someone?
October 2, 2010 at 11:19 pm #4608Trick_x_MasterMemberI have done a lot of research into this and I can think of a few things. First the Effexor probably perpetuated your fatigue big time because of its norepinephrine reuptake properties. A pure ssri like lexapro would be highly beneficial in my opinion, for you. Secondly are you still exercising? I would cut the exercise down to nothing but walking for a few months at least until symptoms resolve. Thirdly I would focus on diet and cut out a lot of carbohydrates. I would go for a ratio of 35% fat 35% protein and 30% carbs. Also, get to sleep by 10pm and then sleep in until your body wakes you up.
October 1, 2010 at 1:14 pm #4685Trick_x_MasterMemberYeah I have used drugs that act on GABA briefly. I don’t think GABA is close at all in efficacy to Serotonin signaling in decreasing chronic high norepinephrine.
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/adrenal-fatigue-getting-worse-134249714.html
“Increasing serotonin is useful since it quickly reduces the perception of stress. Blocking stress is the most predictable effect of an SSRI. This results in a reduction in anxiety, a reduction of overall stress signals (e.g. norepinephrine, ACTH) to the adrenal glands – giving the adrenal glands some breathing room to rest and recover. Over time, as the adrenal glands recover from fatigue, their improved output can reduce norepinephrine levels, helping restore dopamine production, and reduce depressive and anxiety symptoms. Brain function changes to a more non-depressed state. The reduction in norepinephrine and increase in serotonin helps reduce premature ejaculation – which tends to be caused by high norepinephrine levels (since a burst of norepinephrine triggers orgasm, high norepinephrine levels can cause one to be trigger happy so to speak).
Excessively increasing serotonin levels, however, will reduce dopamine production from dopamine neurons. This will further increase norepinephrine production from norepinephrine neurons – since a tract from the dopamine neurons helps control norepinephrine production. The reduction of dopamine and increase in norepinephrine creates a side effect called akathisia. Symptoms include agitation, restlessness, insomnia, anxiety, tension, irritability, fidgetiness, etc. At its worse, it leads to a feeling of wanting to jump out of one’s skin – leading sometimes to impulsive behaviors such as suicide. The increase in suicide risk from antidepressants lead to the FDA requiring warnings about this. Of course, they could not explain it as I have. I usually tell patients to reduce the dose themselves when they get akathisia – to prevent problems like suicide from even occurring.
In any case, serotoninergic medications are useful in the toolkit to help reduce adrenal fatigue. The key is the dose – a balance needs to be made. But they are also only one component of many that may be necessary to get as complete a treatment as one can for adrenal fatigue. And there are some people who cannot tolerate them at all – e.g. people with a family history of Parkinson’s Disease – where they may have lower than usual levels of dopamine production to begin with.”
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