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@hardasnails1973 1875 wrote:

I had a guy with tsh 70 on and incredible high dosage of t4. Examined his diet and changed his breakfast from 15 grams of fiber, protein shake, egg whites to egg whites and cream of rice. In 3 weeks tsh dropped to 5 and he had dropped 18 lbs. For calcium 4 hours away from armour would be the safest best. If it is calcium carbonate it will be more likely to bind. If you have yogurt for breakfast or other milk products this will bind with the thyroid as well as excessive fiber, coffee, iron. Even fortified cereal can cause absorption issues with thyroid.

I knew that calcium could reportedly cause absorption issues, but have never heard that coffee can create and issue. I struggle with calcium being an issue, because it seems like it is in pretty much everything.

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@dano 1782 wrote:

Sorry for my ignorance, however, you mention NT at lefpaharmacy. What is NT?

I took it to mean Natural Thyroid.

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@marsaday 1527 wrote:

thanks, that was useful.

You asked if people noticed that a good cry can make you feel better. I was just trying to express that for me it does not seem to do that. Sorry if you did not find it helpful.

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I think the last time I cried was at my grandma’s funeral over ten years ago. I can’t say that I recall feeling any better as a result.

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@Jean 1242 wrote:

After three week on iodine 12.5 mg and Iron, I cut my hydrocortisone 30 mg to 15 mg without side effets (fatigue, headache…)
It’s possible that iodine heal adrenal ???

Umm…I was under the impression that Hydrocortisone was supposed to be reduced gradually. I am not a doctor, but cutting your dose in half doesn’t seem very gradual to me.

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It has been my experience that there aren’t a lot of doctors prescribing Selegiline. I always thought it was due to the fact that you then have to avoid tyramine, which would seem to me to reduce a patient’s willingness to stay on it long-term. I can see someone staying on it if they had Parkinson’s, but I can see how their might be compliance issues if it was just to raise dopamine levels a little bit. If one accidently ate the wrong thing, they may stop taking the med.

I would think there would be better alternatives…like a low dose of Dextroamphetamine. I don’t see or hear of a heck of a lot of PCPs prescribing that either.

I just realize that this conversation is probably high jacking this thread off topic and I apologize.

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@DrMariano 290 wrote:

Increasing dopamine does not necessarily increase norepinephrine.

Dopamine-releasing neurons do not go the extra step necessary to transform dopamine to norepinephrine. That would defeat the purpose of releasing dopamine since norepinephrine and dopamine often trigger the opposite things. For example, dopamine can be sedating, norepinephrine promotes wakefulness. Dopamine can lower blood pressure, norepinephrine increases it.

Increasing norepinephrine may lead to leakage of dopamine from norepinephrine cells since dopamine is the precursor for norepinephrine. However, this amount is small compared to the amount of norepinephrine released. This dopamine is not localized to the same area as dopamine from dopamine neurons. It is rapidly destroyed before it can get out of the synapse and influence targets of dopamine neurons. This is why increasing norepinephrine is not a good way to treat Parkinson’s disease. It may overall reduce dopamine production instead.

Thank you!

I was curious as to whether taking Amantadine in an effort to increase ones dopamine levels could automatically cause an increase ones norepinephrine. Sounds like that is not the case. That’s what I get for making assumptions. 🙂

As with everything else in life…the more I learn, the more I realize that I do not know!

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@DrMariano 287 wrote:

Low histamine does not necessarily correlate with high norepinephrine.

In patients with high norepinephrine levels, histamine doesn’t necessary rise also, though in many it may. Norepinephrine is a more consistent measure of stress than histamine.

Increasing histamine would raise norepinephrine. I’m not sure this is what one wants to do if norepinephrine is already high.

I see…that makes sense.

I guess I am trying to figure out how someone who has low dopamine (and family history of Parkinsons) and high norepinephrine (based on urine labs) would raise the dopamine and lower the norepinephrine. Since norepinephrine is synthesized from dopamine, it seems that increasing dopamine would also increase norepinephrine.

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What about if someone had low histamine? Would that lead to an increase in norepinephrine? If so, would there potentially be some benefit to raising histamine levels in someone who had low histamine levels and high norepinephrine?

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