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September 13, 2009 at 5:18 pm #2680ScorpioChiqMember
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I am thinking of trying it again … thing is, i foudn it very hard on my adrenals …
I take a multiv, magnesium to bowel tolerance, vit C and selenium. Are you suggesting adding additional B2 and niacin outside the multiv.?
I tried is Saturday – just a 6mg pill = all my muscles tightened up (adrenal stress), edema … it’s not for me. I react terribly to excess iodine. I even tried adding c salt and extra vit c etc
September 11, 2009 at 12:58 pm #2679ScorpioChiqMember@hardasnails1973 1698 wrote:
Reason they went up is because iodine depletes selenium which lowers antibodies.
Another person started iodoral and when FIA tested showed low selenium. One also needs to support the NIS transport system with b2, niacin, vitamin C, magnesium to update the iodine.I am thinking of trying it again … thing is, i foudn it very hard on my adrenals …
I take a multiv, magnesium to bowel tolerance, vit C and selenium. Are you suggesting adding additional B2 and niacin outside the multiv.?
September 11, 2009 at 2:07 am #2678ScorpioChiqMember@hardasnails1973 1690 wrote:
Did you have the iodine load test completed? If not then there was no validation for the iodoral in the first place. Under no circumstance would I recommend iodoral to a person with hashi unless being tested. if they are low then I would tell them that the dangerous of low iodine would out weight the risk of hashimotos.
Yep I did the iodine loading test. Results:
Iodine 30 (ref 0.1 – 0.45 mg/24 hr)
% of extretion/24 hr = 60%
September 10, 2009 at 2:42 am #2677ScorpioChiqMemberI was on 1 iodoral table (12.5mg iodine) for 7 months … shortly after starting it my antibodies (Anti-thyrog. and Anti-TPO) increased from 70 and 100 respectively to well over 400. Six weeks after stopping it the antibodies went back to normal, albiet heigher than desired.
September 10, 2009 at 12:05 am #3259ScorpioChiqMember@corky1121 1470 wrote:
Has anyone that tested low ferritin also had high reverse T3? I have low ferritin and low vitamin D levels, but they are edging up slowly. I also take low doses of Armour or NT and just recently added 10mcg of Cytomel 2x a day.
I have most of the low thyroid symptoms and my initial Free T4 before taking any medications was .93. My level has gone up slightly, but I found my Reverse T3 was 390 and the high range at my lab I think was 380.
My worst symptom is muscle pain. I believe I have fibromyalgia with trigger knots around many of my muscles. I believe the cause of this condition is from inadequate thyroid production. Now that could be because of the low ferritin and low D.
I have read Dr. Lowe’s theories on fibro pain and high Reverse T3 and he treats with large doses of T3.
I’m at 1.5 grains NT and 10mcgs of Cytomel and my last lab results of Free T3 came back 3.6 (2.3-4.2), my Free T4, 1.15 (0.61-1.76), Total T4, 7.0 (4.5-12.0), Total T3 185 (85-205).
Ferritin came back 53 and that is up from 31 before taking any supplements. D came back 46 and that is up from 28 before supplements.
Anyone with low ferritin also have high Reverse T3 and problems with muscle pain or fibro? I’m going to address all deficient levels, but I’d like get close to which is the culprit in this awful pain syndrome.
bump … i also have terrible muscle pain and knots. Tough to get the ferritin up because it causes consitpation, even with extra magnesium. I read a doc that believes muscle pain is also called by toxicity…
September 9, 2009 at 10:09 pm #3417ScorpioChiqMember@hardasnails1973 1673 wrote:
Yes
I have seen changes in several people that have correct this as well as my self. I am much more stable mentally then being an emotional basket case. One armour my body was converting it to fast and made me have low t4 in brain. Also since being on t4 i am dreaming much better then on armour.What’s your actual dosage or breakdown? As per your response, I was wondering if you (or others) can lend an opinion: I was on all armour (165mg split into 3x day) and getting no where. I had edema, weight gain and mood swings. My naturopath suggested lowering the armour a bit and adding T4. I was able to tolerate 15mcg of T4 and lower the armour to 155mg (split into 3, compounded). I think I urinated 3-4lbs away that I was holding, but felt “stressed” with severe muscle spasms. I had two normal menstrual cycles (a miracle in and of itself) and then the 3rd was 5 days late, with 10 days of spotting/bleeding. The water retention started creeping up until I was holding an extra 5lbs, which is a lot on my frame. When I increase the armour and lower the T4 a bit I feel a tiny bit better, but not as “normal” as I was for those two months. I am not sure what to increase, decrease, add or change anymore … and I have been to enough doctors that have just shrugged and given up. I am just too sensitive to small changes. Your thoughts?
If it helps, this was my last lab:cortisol fasting 494 (170 – 720) @ 8:15am
sodium 140 (135 – 145)
potassium 4.6 (3.3 – 5.1)
ferritin 38 (under 50 = low iron)
blood glucose 5.5 (3.6 – 6)
TSH 0.05 (0.50 – 3)
FT3 5.0 (3.5 – 6.5)
FT4 13 (9 – 23)
Progesterone 67 (on some labs the range is up to 85, on some it’s up to 50)
Estrogen 613 (luteal goes up to 1145)I apologize if this is the what section to post this in, or if I should post it in “women’s issues”. Just let me know and I can move it. Thanks!
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