[menrfrommars]

Hardasnails – why bother replying when it is clear you do not read or understand other peoples posts. this forum is absolutley useless.

[menrfrommars]

i have had a saliva test done in june 09 and it shows normal rhythm, but the overall level of cortisol is lower than it could be. Basically my adrenals produce good am levels and then tank to be bottom of the range for the rest of the day.

being on levoT 150mcgs made me well, but i think i was getting small signs of being hyper (hot in the face, slight palps).

Currently not feeling good today, feel tired and low. i get this every week to 10 days, for a day or two.

i am thinking of doing the HC again, but i seem to feel worse if a take a 2,5mg dose.

any idea of what i should do? i thought about just going for 3 x 5mg doses tomorrow to see if that hits it.

ferritin is fine (115) and i take b12 which was low. Testosterone is fine.

Hardasnails said a “small dosage”. i take it you read my post, so is 150 a small dosage then? i thought it was average.

not able to get rt3 tested here.

[menrfrommars]

update: no longer using HC and stopped using it 3 or so weeks ago.

feeling really well on T4 meds only. It seems i need a high T4 level to feel well.

still using adrenal dynamite and will be experimenting coming off it to see if my body still needs it. i think i do.

getting optimised for the first time in 16 yrs is a great feeling, but it will take time to do. for the last yr i have felt better on armour, but it has been levoT which has pushed me through to optimisation. on it now for 10 weeks and finding my correct dose which i think is around 137.5mcgs.

[menrfrommars]

i have said i was taking 2.5mg doses. i did this 3 x a day and then decreased to twice. my body was telling me i dont need it so i went down to 2.5mg a day. now zero. the most i have been on is 7.5mg a day.

still feeling great. if i tire then i will just add in 2.5mg in the afternoon as this is the time for me to take it.

[menrfrommars]

i havent taken any hc for the last 2 days and i feel fine. Very good. i have been very active these last 2 days working and then playing football both nights. tonight i reckon i could use some hc, but i will hold off and see how i get on. i really do feel good, it’s just i have been so active i am sure my adrenals are unhappy with me 🙂

[menrfrommars]

pmgammer

i have no idea what is stressing me. i have thought about this for ages and i just do not know. i have a nice life, but for some reason my adrenals dont work too well after lunch time and later in the day. i am now treating my thyroid with levoT.

i took my hc dose today and i actually feel very tired after taking it. this time it has made things worse for me.

i have been working physically today and felt great, but after taking the hc at 4.30pm, i have gone down hill.

tomorrow i will leave out any hc, until i feel my body wants some. if i become tired this is usually the sign.

[menrfrommars]

Doing very well at the moment. for the last 2 days i have just taken 2.5mg a day at 4pm.

i am glad to hear targeted doses of Hc do make a difference.

i will update how i go on.

[menrfrommars]

thanks, that was useful.

[menrfrommars]

maybe it is low cortisol ?

What do you all reckon.

[menrfrommars]

have you done a saliva adrenal test to see how you cortisol production works? could be a start

[menrfrommars]

Thats for info DrM.

What about exercise. i have heard this stresses the adrenals and can be bad news. i am very active and do exercise every other day (cycling, swimming, football). i have stopped playing squash because i noticed it made me ill afterwards. i really hope i can start playing again, but i am waiting.

psychologically i think i am sound of mind, but when my body switches off i become worried and nervous. sounds like this is the Norepinephrine kicking in and not being damped down enough.

i am in a happy marriage and trying for children. it seems the thyroid problem has left me with lower fertility and so things are not going too well there.

[menrfrommars]

i havent had a blood test done while on armour. the reason i am switching to t4 is so i can get treatment on the nhs here in uk. i will now be monitored rather than just go on feelings.

i tested cortisol in june on a bad day. i wasnt stressed, just very tired and ill that day and it shows my adrenals work ok, but could be better.

8am – 15.6 (12-22)
noon = 2.7 (5-9) LOW
4pm 3.4 (3-7)
night 0.9 (1-3)

dhea am 0.83 (0.4-1.47)

dhea pm 0.84 (0.4-1.47)

[menrfrommars]

i will be staying on 100mgs for a month and then i get tested. so i will wait and see.

[menrfrommars]

the blood cortisol test shows i am top of the range.

overall i have low cortisol when you take into account the noon and 4pm readings.

my morning cortisol result which is the most recent showed 15.6 nmol/l at 8am. this is middle of the range and i was feeling very ill that day. i was under no stress at all.

noon = 2.7 (5-9)
4pm = 3.4 (3-7)
evening = 0.9 (1-3)

dhea was 0.83 am and 0.84 pm (geneva D)

What do people think about these results?

Can you not give me some help on this thread. i would like an answer to the over stimulated para sympathetic nervous system and the levels of stress i think i experience. if this is high in my system what can i do to reduce it. the Hc does work, but i am frightened of taking it in larger doses (greater than 10mgs)

[menrfrommars]

i have experienced the placebo effect again this weekend after taking thyroxine.

i felt so well again – strong, weight loss around stomach, happy, relaxed.

started to feel very tired again today. feeling very sleepy driving home this afternoon.

i just cant stand feeling like this and i have no where to turn.

i am really stuck on what is not working with me. i wonder if i need more thyroxine.

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