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Read that :
I like his arguments against this protocol. Mentionning that someone nearly died of an adrenal crisis on it while it was supposed to be an herx reaction if enough to make me stay miles away from this.
Anyway, would you wear big sunglasses everyday for at least two years, what would people think of a nutjob doing that 😮
I thought I had them because of low T as well (and really low estrogens). After all, that wasn’t the case, still have them with optimal numbers now. In the mean time, fixing sex hormones and cortisol unmasked hyperthyroidism from too much armour. My TSH was totally out of wack (way too high for my free levels) before fixing other hormones, now I have a suppressed TSH that matches my symptoms of hyper so I have to lower my dose, my hot flashes are a bit better already.
I think I’m about to find a good balance.
So you might have hot flashes from other causes too, just don’t forget to look at the whole picture.
I saw that from Dr. M post on lab pointers and I’m confused tbh.
ESTRADIOL:
The fractionated estrogens test is useful for determining possibly what is happening to estrogens or in the case of DHEA, where it is going. But a 24-hour urine hormone test – where many hormones and their metabolites are measured (such as done by Meridian Labs or Rhein labs) would tell you more about the pathways involved.
What I want to monitor mainly with this urine test are estrogens levels. Considering DHEA can increase estrogens levels, my thought is that I won’t know at all what DHEA is doing in me if I don’t take it for 2 days before the test. I wish I had the ultrasensitive test available in Canada, unfortunately it’s not and I’m trying to find the best way to keep my E levels in check.
I really fell alone in all this, can’t afford to see a doctor in the US, my doc isn’t 100% up to date on male hormones balancing, he’s way more experience with women.
Any help would be appreciate on the best course of action to monitor my E with urine analysis.
Thx again,
SebDid you test thyroid hormones before switching to Synthroid, Armour might have nothing to do with how you feel.
Did you have a saliva cortisol test done in the past? 5 mg HC is a really low dose
@bereal 1212 wrote:
* I have tried cilantro, but am allergic to algae, so I can’t take chlorella. I’ve never heard of NDF and will look it up.
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I don’t think NDF will be ok for you then as it’s nanonized chlorella. I took for many months and I think it’s reduced my heavy metals load a great deal, i had nothing showing up in a DMSA challenge test. But I took Lugol for a while too so difficult to say which one is responsible. Before that I had high aluminium, arsenic and mercury levels.
It’s normal to react strongly to iodine at try, I sometimes felt I was becoming crazy (pretty scary experience in fact) and had bad palpitations. It last 2 weeks, selenium, sea salt and vitamin c help a lot.
Just found that :
“The iron avid patient has a normal to low ferritin (usually low) but a very high transferrin-iron-saturation percentage (Tsat%). Experts agree that iron avidity is probably the body’s response to not enough iron coming into the system. Hemochromatosis patients who have become iron avid, should discontinue phlebotomies and eat to replenish iron stores.”
Seems to fit my case, will read more
@DrMariano 1279 wrote:
In men, I like to see a Ferritin of about 150. In women, about 100-120. Otherwise, cellular metabolism and energy production would be impaired.
But should I be worried about high blood iron? Is it a sign I’m taking too much, too fast?
Does hypothyroidism impair the metabolic process of storing iron in ferritin? That could be an explanation :confused:
Thx!
@DrMariano 342 wrote:
Exogenous testosterone replacement, itself, reduces thyroid hormone production by reducing testicular thyroid releasing hormone production.
Is it a significant part of the TRH produced by the whole body?
From wikipedia :
In addition to the brain, TRH can also be detected in other areas of the body including the gastrointestinal system and pancreatic islets.
I wonder how much is made outside the brain and in testicles specifically.
That in itself could be a good reason to always take hcg with TRT.
@DrMariano 969 wrote:
With problems in iron absorption, the easiest solution is to use heme iron – such as in the stew recipe I provided in another post. The other solution is to increase Ferrous Sulfate or Ferrous Gluconate dose further.
Perhaps a good solution would then be to take Proferrin which is heme iron in supplement form, you only need 11 mg elemental iron to absorb more than ferrous gluconate 100 mg elemental iron. It should be easier on the intestine.
I heard it’s a good product and I’m thinking of using it. It’s lactose and gluten free.
Thx for the list of supplements!
I know your story quite good now from realthyroidhelp 🙂
I hope I can improve those muscles problems (twitching, buzzing, cramping, stiffness, restlessness etc…) they are now by far the worst of my remaining symptoms, I don’t feel fatigue as much now.
Strangely, they weren’t as bad when I was on a lower dose of Thyroid hormones, but some symptoms like anxiety, fatigue, nausea, feeling like fainting etc.. were worse than now. At some point, I could hardly stand up for more than 5 minutes, I never feel like fainting now.
I’m guessing my body need nutriments/time to repair itself now, I think I got it covered with my supplements. I’ve been taking iron for 2 months now and I’m gonna check my ferritin tomorrow. I hope HCG will improve me too, I haven’t started it yet.
Gotta keep the faith 🙂
Btw, could anyone give me input on this symptom, when I get the worst twitching crisis, it also comes with burning tears (not crying, my normal tears become hard to tolerate).
It is relate to potassium imbalance, sodium imbalance?
My aldosterone levels are normal and both sodium / potassium blood levels are mid range.
I had an hair analysis done some time ago that showed extremely high potassium and sodium level
Potassium : 310 (9-40)
Sodium : 330 (12-90)Any idea about that, i don’t know how to read an hair analysis and not sure if it’s a reliable test. Could it be a missing piece of the puzzle?
Thx,
SebHave you tested aldsoterone and renin levels? You might have hypoaldosteronism, especially when taking HC which can lower other adrenal hormones. (Though it’s not my case, my aldosterone is good with HC, but DHEA dropped)
@Shaolin 858 wrote:
Gu3vara how did you get all this problems??? hypogonadism/adrenal issues especially
I don’t know what the heck happened to me honnestly…I started having recurrent epididymitis when I was 14 y.o. and my urologist think it damages my testicules too. I had a sperm analysis done recently and I have leukospermia (high white blood cell which is a sign of infection) and extremely low sperm count. So it seems I have primary hypogonadism because of that. It might have went on for years now and I’m 29 now.
I was diagnosed with Hashimoto 3 years ago and I don’t know if there is any relation between those problems.
I went downhill from there, depression, anxiety, muscle problems, insomnia, fatigue, headaches etc… I haven’t recover yet. I’ve been on an effective TRT for a few weeks only (I was on cream for 3 months and I wasn’t absorbing it at all, so I went to shots.
I’m still optimizing thyroid and I’m taking cortef because of a really low adrenal saliva test. I can now tolerate Armour better.
I’m working on improving my B-12 vitamin D iron and essential fats stores that are all depleted.
I had a test done called ION from metametrix done few months ago that was really useful, it’s expensive but it does test more than 300 elements , bacteria, nutriments, amino acids, fats, etc… I wonder if anyone else has experience with this test, it showed that I had pretty good zinc, copper and manganese levels. Hope it’s reliable, my doc uses it for all his CFS cases.
Kind off an horror story really, having that much problems at my age…but I think I have all the puzzle pieces now to improve, it’s just a matter of time. I have a good doctor that helps me now.
