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October 4, 2009 at 12:14 pm #3720AlexanderDenmarkMember
Hi stephanie, are you on medication?
September 27, 2009 at 6:38 pm #3570AlexanderDenmarkMemberStay away from the antidepressants though.
September 27, 2009 at 6:25 pm #3569AlexanderDenmarkMemberyes, we all have that experience unfortunately.
September 27, 2009 at 5:56 pm #3568AlexanderDenmarkMemberlooking at the range for SHBG, his is about midrange. Dosn’t look high at all. why do you consider it high?
September 22, 2009 at 3:48 pm #3526AlexanderDenmarkMemberI’d say that the testosterone is too low, but I think hardasnails is just exploring factors that could be bringing the testosterone down.
If you went to an anti-aging doctor you would definitely be offered TRT.
September 21, 2009 at 7:47 pm #3487AlexanderDenmarkMemberHi sarah, I’m quite interested in this too, since a thing a bit similar has happened to me. I’m looking forward to hear what Dr. M can chime in with. But I suppose it would always be good idea to get a full hormonal workup of Thyroid, sex hormones, adrenals, IGF-1 and related nutrional factors.
I think if you say your thyroid labs came back borderline for hypothyroidism, you probably answered your own question. A lot of people with low thyroid/adrenal fatigue/Chronic fatigue syndrome/Fibromyalgia report ADD like symptoms including myself.
September 19, 2009 at 6:57 pm #2702AlexanderDenmarkMemberFor me what works the best is simply to avoid eating unhealthy. In that way, I do not obsess over certain diets nor become ill because of what I eat. Foe me a diet should never become a goal unto itself unless there is a certain condition that requires it.
September 7, 2009 at 2:41 pm #3199AlexanderDenmarkMemberDr. M
Can untreated hypothyroidism and linked conditions(adrenal fatigue, low testosterone, low vitamin D, Ferritin Etc) mimic symptoms of parkinsonism?
September 5, 2009 at 10:16 pm #3364AlexanderDenmarkMemberActually it is our loss. We spend many years in complete misery and ill health due to the fact that these doctors don’t listen to us and don’t know how to diagnose and treat these problems.
We learn the hard way that we have to do everything our self and learn every thing that the doctors havn’t learnt. We are a select minority who know how teach our selves and seek knowledge. I can imagine all those millions who are undiagnosed who live with all sorts of healths problems and chronic depression or scizophrenia, all those thousands who commit suicide because they can no longer take it and don’t know what to do, all those who are disbelieved by doctors and friends to be hypochondriacs or malingeres.
It’s our loss big time.
Finally due to my own research and doctor hertoghe, I’m now diagnosed with hypothryoidim, adrenal fatigue, low testosterone and low melatonin.
If I hadn’t taken matters into my own hands, I would still be picking at straws and probably comitted suicide. I feel that bad. But I had to learn everything myself and pay for to. And not listen to all the doctors, family and friends who thought I was a hypochondriac. It can really make you bitter.
September 4, 2009 at 9:38 pm #3336AlexanderDenmarkMemberBlack tea probably just raises your libido because the caffeine stimulates your adrenals. I think it would be a poor solution for your problem.
September 4, 2009 at 9:31 pm #3363AlexanderDenmarkMemberhardasnails
Why is using T3 only bad?
I think doctors need to accept that some patients can have chronic reverse T3 dominance. It may not be accepted by conventional doctors, but conventional doctors don’t even believe that reverse T3, adrenal fatigue exists. that T4/t3 are crappy drugs, that TSH and T4 are the only thyroid tests that matter. Conventional medicince has ultimately failed badly in endocrinology.
I know that when I take armour or thyrolar, I feel so bad, I can hardly exist. They definitly make me more hypo. My adrenals are supported and all. The only reason I can think of is reverse T3 dominance. Right now, I am taking no thyroid meds, because armour and thyrolar make me feel worse. Waiting for T3 to come in. Surely taking T3 only for about 2 months isn’t so bad a solulotion is it? Instead of being condemned to a life of hypothyroidism.
August 24, 2009 at 5:37 pm #3198AlexanderDenmarkMemberHow large a percentage of people do you reckon who suffer from disorders on the depresssion and anxiety spectrum(MDD, Bipolar, OCD, GAD etc) do you reckon suffer from a low thyroid disorder? Do you reckon that the thyroid disorder is a cause in itself(genetic, sporadic inheritence) or somehow secondary and caused by the mental disorder or unhealthy lifestyle?
August 19, 2009 at 4:56 pm #3197AlexanderDenmarkMemberSeems like straight T3 isn’t too bad for Bipolar symptoms either.
August 19, 2009 at 4:01 pm #3179AlexanderDenmarkMemberThank you Dr. M
About the safety of long term use of SSRI’s, I do disagree somewhat though. But I am speaking wholly from the perspective of a patient. A recent study found that SSRI’s significantly downregulate testostorone.
PURPOSE: To evaluate endocrine profile and hypothalamic-pituitary-testis (HPT) axis in male depressed patients with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI)-induced sexual dysfunction (SDF). MATERIALS AND METHODS: Eighty-six fertile depressed male patients with SSRI-induced SDF, aged 18 to 50 years, were enrolled in the study (group 1). Sixty-two age-matched depressed fertile patients who currently receive one of the SSRIs but without SDF (group 2), and 68 age-matched healthy fertile men who had never received a psychiatric diagnosis (group 3) served as controls. Pretreatment evaluation included history and physical examination and International Index of Erectile Function. Two blood samples were drawn from each subject at 20-minute intervals for the determination of the resting levels of the following hormones: luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, prolactin, and estradiol. The HPT axis was also assessed using the gonadotropin-releasing hormone test. RESULTS: The prevalence of hormonal abnormalities in groups 1, 2, and 3 were 83.7% (72), 51.6% (32), and 11.8% (7), respectively (P = 0.001 vs group 1 and 0.007 vs group 2). Compared with normal controls, the subjects taking SSRIs had significantly lower serum levels of LH, FSH, and testosterone. In addition, there were significantly decreased LH and FSH responses to gonadotropin-releasing hormone test in groups 1 and 2 compared with normal controls. Of patients in groups 1 and 2, 68 (79.1%) and 27 (43.5%) had elevated serum levels of prolactin (P = 0.0001 vs group 1 and 0.001 vs group 2). CONCLUSIONS: Most depressed subjects taking SSRIs with and without SDF had diminished HPT axis function. This should be replicated in further studies.
Also the other study’s that I have seen is that they greatly increase adrenal output of cortisol and lower thyroid hormone output. They also decrease growth hormone.
They might be safe in the hands of a knowledgeable doctor such as yourself who has a vast knowlege of the complex interplay or neurotransmitters and hormones, but in the hands of the most gp’s and psychiatrists who knows little about the endoctrine system, the long term outcome I see is hypogoandism, infertility insulin resisttance, adrenal burnout and sub-clinical hypothyroidism and generally pre-mature agiing.
The alleged safety of SSRI’s never made sense to me and still dosn’t. Only in the hands of yourself can I see this, but in the hands of 95% of those who prescribe them, I don’t see it.
August 16, 2009 at 6:35 am #3178AlexanderDenmarkMember@DrMariano 1385 wrote:
Persistent sexual dysfunction despite stopping SSRI use is probably due to problems in the system that were already present before using the SSRI, rather than being the result of SSRI use.
I would not be blaming the SSRI, I would be looking at the rest of the system to find the cause.
“Thank you very much Dr. M
What kind of problems in the system before the use of SSRI meds could this be since there were was no sexual dysfunction or reduced libido prioer to using this medication?
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