What the reasons for elevated total Bilirubin other than Gilbert’s syndrome ?

[chipdouglas]

What the reasons for elevated total Bilirubin other than Gilbert’s syndrome ?

[hardasnails1973]

@chipdouglas 491 wrote:

What the reasons for elevated total Bilirubin other than Gilbert’s syndrome ?

If one is having liver issues people then one can look at exposure to natural sunlight as great way to help detoxify the body and help keep the bile flowing production. Why do you think they put childern with jaundice and bilirubin issues under sunlamps in the nursery. Bilirubin is detoxed through the conjugation pathway. In order to help this pathway along one can use glycine and taurine. These 2 amino acid are also known to calm down the CNS. Glycine work in with gaba, and serotonin to act as the breaking system for the nervioud system. Glycine can be used to help people with schizophrenia and also anxiety. When I take glycine it makes me calm and mellow helping to take the edge of things. Glycine can also help to regulate blood sugar and is good to aid in hypoglycemic state. People that are hypoglycemic are low on urinary glycine and glutamine. Sam-e is also used to help with gilberts syndrone to help thin the bile. Have you been checked for choleostasis or gall stones?

[chipdouglas]

@hardasnails1973 499 wrote:

If one is having liver issues people then one can look at exposure to natural sunlight as great way to help detoxify the body and help keep the bile flowing production. Why do you think they put childern with jaundice and bilirubin issues under sunlamps in the nursery. Bilirubin is detoxed through the conjugation pathway. In order to help this pathway along one can use glycine and taurine. These 2 amino acid are also known to calm down the CNS. Glycine work in with gaba, and serotonin to act as the breaking system for the nervioud system. Glycine can be used to help people with schizophrenia and also anxiety. When I take glycine it makes me calm and mellow helping to take the edge of things. Glycine can also help to regulate blood sugar and is good to aid in hypoglycemic state. People that are hypoglycemic are low on urinary glycine and glutamine. Sam-e is also used to help with gilberts syndrone to help thin the bile. Have you been checked for choleostasis or gall stones?

Yes, couple of months back, my primary care physician sent me to have an abdominal ultrasound–it’s unremarkable.

Regarding children with high bilirubin in nursery, it’s common for babies to have transient elevated bilirubin. IIRC their liver isn’t yet mature enough to conjugate it, but like you said, sunlight helps, which is something I haven’t had much over the last 10 years, BUT since we last spoke on the phone, I’ve made changes to my lifestyle, that is, I have more sunlight, going outdoors etc.

I’ve actually gone over my latest blood works so as to find out whether a pattern can be made out.

Total Bilirubin : ~10 points off the chart

Ferritin : high normal

Progesterone : off the chart

DHT: off the chart

TSH : consistently over 2.0

Perhaps this pattern makes sense to someone on here IF it is an actual pattern to begin with.

[hardasnails1973]

@chipdouglas 501 wrote:

Yes, couple of months back, my primary care physician sent me to have an abdominal ultrasound–it’s unremarkable.

Regarding children with high bilirubin in nursery, it’s common for babies to have transient elevated bilirubin. IIRC their liver isn’t yet mature enough to conjugate it, but like you said, sunlight helps, which is something I haven’t had much over the last 10 years, BUT since we last spoke on the phone, I’ve made changes to my lifestyle, that is, I have more sunlight, going outdoors etc.

I’ve actually gone over my latest blood works so as to find out whether a pattern can be made out.

Total Bilirubin : ~10 points off the chart

Ferritin : high normal

Progesterone : off the chart

DHT: off the chart

TSH : consistently over 2.0

Perhaps this pattern makes sense to someone on here IF it is an actual pattern to begin with.

I would rule out hemochromatosis and hypothyroid with good Dr. Canada does not have the best care system up there.

[chipdouglas]

@hardasnails1973 513 wrote:

I would rule out hemochromatosis and hypothyroid with good Dr. Canada does not have the best care system up there.

I thought hemochromatosis had been ruled out as these results came in normal, but reading what Dr. Mariano posted caused me to give hemochromatosis second thought. Despite being within range, I find my ferritin is not where it should be, and I don’t like that.

Am I recalling right that hypothyroid can cause ferritin to go up ?

Ferritin : 229 (50 – 250) ug/L

Glucose 5.0 (4.2 – 6.1) mmol/L
Serum creatinine 70 (62 – 106) umol/L
Sodium 140 (137 – 145) mmol/L
Potassium (plasma) 3.3 (3.4 – 4.8) mmol/L
Chloride 102 (98 – 109) mmol/L
AST 18 (0 – 37) U/L
ALT 19 (0 – 41) U/L
Alkaline Phosphatase 54 (52 – 132) U/L
Total Bilirubin 32 (3 – 22) umol/L
Direct Bilirubin 4 (0 – 7) umol/L
Calcium 2.43 ( 2.15 – 2.65) mmol/L
Uric acid 394 (255 – 430) umol/L
Total protein 79 (63 – 83) g/L
Albumin 51 (35 – 60) g/L
Magnesium 0.97 (0.65 – 1.05) mmol/L
Serum iron 23.4 (9.5 – 29.9) umol/L
Transferrin 2.8 (2.0 – 3.4) g/L
TIBC 64 (47 – 78) umol/L
TRF saturation % 0.37 (0.20 – 0.50)

[JanSz]

@chipdouglas 514 wrote:

I thought hemochromatosis had been ruled out as these results came in normal, but reading what Dr. Mariano posted caused me to give hemochromatosis second thought. Despite being within range, I find my ferritin is not where it should be, and I don’t like that.

Am I recalling right that hypothyroid can cause ferritin to go up ?

Ferritin : 229 (50 – 250) ug/L

Glucose 5.0 (4.2 – 6.1) mmol/L
Serum creatinine 70 (62 – 106) umol/L
Sodium 140 (137 – 145) mmol/L
Potassium (plasma) 3.3 (3.4 – 4.8) mmol/L
Chloride 102 (98 – 109) mmol/L
AST 18 (0 – 37) U/L
ALT 19 (0 – 41) U/L
Alkaline Phosphatase 54 (52 – 132) U/L
Total Bilirubin 32 (3 – 22) umol/L
Direct Bilirubin 4 (0 – 7) umol/L
Calcium 2.43 ( 2.15 – 2.65) mmol/L
Uric acid 394 (255 – 430) umol/L
Total protein 79 (63 – 83) g/L
Albumin 51 (35 – 60) g/L
Magnesium 0.97 (0.65 – 1.05) mmol/L
Serum iron 23.4 (9.5 – 29.9) umol/L
Transferrin 2.8 (2.0 – 3.4) g/L
TIBC 64 (47 – 78) umol/L
TRF saturation % 0.37 (0.20 – 0.50)

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Test # 1
Transferrin Saturation (TS) Safe range = 12-44%
You are at 37%<<<<<<<<

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You are ok

Test # 2
Serum Ferritin (SF) Safe range = 5-150
Ferritin=229<<<<<<<<<

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You failed this test

Test # 3
UIBC. It stands for unbound iron binding capacity. Safe range is above = 146

No information to perform test #3

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[chipdouglas]

Thanks JanSz,

I’ve also found out one’s ferritin can go up owing to sleep apnea–I didn’t know that. I’m not saying this is what I have, but it’s a possibility, since it happened that I woke up in in near panic which lasts for a few seconds, and when I wake up, I do so inhaling hard, as though I’d stopped breathing. It consciously happened to me twice over the last 5 months. I’ll look more into this.

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