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February 25, 2010 at 2:04 pm #3657MetalMXMember
I have switched to ERFA thyroid and holy shit regardless of adrenal fatigue and low body temperature i feel completely different. Like a true energy i’ve never had is back in me as well as better mental functioning and many other little things which i just cant believe i already feel relief from only the first day on it. Once i get my low temps up after treating adrenals for a bit i will be even better, but i’m very happy right now.
Synthetics suck balls! ERFA kicks ass!!!
Can anyone tell me how long it took them for their temps to stabilize once they got on HC?. Obviously it cannot happen overnight and the fluctuations will remain till you are on at least a few weeks…
Im on 15mg of HC right now. 3 grains of ERFA. But temps still crash after taking thyroid to very low 35.3C.
February 27, 2010 at 6:35 pm #3711marsaday1971Membersounds like the higher hc is helping too.
not sure about my temps as i wasnt monitoring them when using the hc.
still doing really well on 3 1/2 grains and 25mg hc.
i big change has now been my hair !! i always thought i had shit hair because of male pattern baldness. i am not bald at all and have loads of hair, it is just poor quality and slow growing. this has changed in the last few weeks and it has got thicker, softer and is growing faster. i cannot believe this as i have had crap hair since 17 years old. so it must be the thyroid started to go wrong at this age and didnt hit me with physical symptoms until 21.
February 28, 2010 at 7:26 am #3658MetalMXMemberThe difference is night and day with ERFA vs Synthetics for myself personally. But i am curious does anyone know what the T2 and T1 in dessicated thyroid actually do? They must be involved in something from what i have read is that they are involved in the breakdown of fat for energy.
March 7, 2010 at 12:33 pm #3659MetalMXMemberHAN mentioned this which i have found benefit from is to add 10mcg of T3 morning and evening this itself has increased my temps a little bit and made me feel better likely by lowering RT3 which dose increase due to the adrenal issue that’s for sure.
April 4, 2010 at 1:19 am #3660MetalMXMemberHas anyone had their testosterone levels tank while on HC?
On the STTM website it says some people experience muscle weakness while on HC and this is due to a declining testosterone level from the HC use.
All i know is that before i started HC i had muscle weakness and now it is not so bad it is actually improved and it mentions muscle weakness as a low cortisol symptom on the website.
April 6, 2010 at 9:28 am #3661MetalMXMemberJust to update everyone.
I couldn’t get my temperaturs stable whatsoever on 20mg of HC they are always low. I looked on the STTM website about how low stomach acid production could be hindering results. Both in problems absorbing thyroid as well as adrenal medications.
So i switched doing my ERFA Sublingually and i added a HCL tablet with my HC dose. When i added One HCL tablet with 5mg of HC my temp went from 35.3 to 36.1C!!! Finally!. And i felt like 10 times better and suddenly really motivated. So now i will always do my HC with a Hydrochloric Acid tablet. I’ll even be able to lower my HC dose and get better results. So if you’re having subpar results with HC and using high doses and it’s not working i recommend trying Betaine HCL with your HC doses trust me it will work.
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April 11, 2010 at 4:49 pm #3712marsaday1971MemberI had a wobble the other week and again it turned out to be low thyroid. i have increased 1/2 grain to 4 grains. feel fine again. however, i started to do some research into hc and low aldosterone. if high doses of hc are not having too much of an effect it could be due to low aldosterone.
anyway i am trialling a 1/4 dose of florinef to see if i need it. i pee a huge amount and i notice this has vastly reduced.
April 12, 2010 at 10:58 am #3662MetalMXMember@marsaday1971 2688 wrote:
I had a wobble the other week and again it turned out to be low thyroid. i have increased 1/2 grain to 4 grains. feel fine again. however, i started to do some research into hc and low aldosterone. if high doses of hc are not having too much of an effect it could be due to low aldosterone.
anyway i am trialling a 1/4 dose of florinef to see if i need it. i pee a huge amount and i notice this has vastly reduced.
Ahhh ok yer im on 20mg of HC and notice less adrenal symptoms but felt much more hypo at times right now on 3 grains maybe i need 4 grains but my temperatures are still fluctuating. Would the temperatures be the be all end all of if your are on enough HC?
The thing i feel is tingling or goosebumps around my body and feeling very cold and cold hands and just feeling off. I don’t know if that could be related to low aldosterone… any ideas if it is?
I might need to check my urine estrogen metabolites which HAN mentioned i should a few months ago which i never got around to it might be something that can keep a person hypo to some degree i feel as though i may be having low estrogen symptoms… like joint pain and sensitivity to bright lights
April 12, 2010 at 1:26 pm #3663MetalMXMember@MetalMX 2690 wrote:
Ahhh ok yer im on 20mg of HC and notice less adrenal symptoms but felt much more hypo at times right now on 3 grains maybe i need 4 grains but my temperatures are still fluctuating. Would the temperatures be the be all end all of if your are on enough HC?
The thing i feel is tingling or goosebumps around my body and feeling very cold and cold hands and just feeling off. I don’t know if that could be related to low aldosterone… any ideas if it is?
I might need to check my urine estrogen metabolites which HAN mentioned i should a few months ago which i never got around to it might be something that can keep a person hypo to some degree i feel as though i may be having low estrogen symptoms… like joint pain and sensitivity to bright lights
What symptoms we’re you experiencing exactly?
April 13, 2010 at 11:23 am #3713marsaday1971MemberWell i have stopped the florinef today. it was making physical things improve, but mentally i feel terrible. very quiet and low in mood. i dont know if it was my body getting used to it, but it affected me big time within a few hours of taking it.
i went with it at first, but i just cannot take this low mood. physically i noticed i was stronger playing sport. i wasnt sweating as much (because i sweat too much).
not sure what to do really. i will see how i balance out off it, but still feel pretty crap today.
anyone know why this has affected my mood so much ?
April 19, 2010 at 12:50 am #3664MetalMXMemberIm not sure why your moods weren’t so good on Florinef. Maybe because it was messing with your electrolytes or other bodily functions in a negative manner.
What i have to say i am now off HC and my temps seem to have stabilized and i feel great. It seems as though i am experiencing “recovery of adrenal reserve” which i’ve read sometimes the adrenals can come back after HC use. I really feel good right now and so quick to do things its unbelieveable. I just hope this holds.
Although low but stable at 35.8C and 3 grains. Upon reading up on the site STTM low body temperature would be another “symptom” of hypo so i could slowly raise and see if temps increase. Ill keep you guys updated. I probably need more as i am a large structured person at 6″4 with big bones.
April 19, 2010 at 7:39 pm #3682wapf fanMember@MetalMX 2558 wrote:
Im constantly breaking wind. You’re right IBS is a adrenal/thyroid problem.
I have abolished that same problem by one particular change in my diet. I soak all grains, nuts and seeds before eating them. Once I started doing that it was amazing. I used to always by the end of the day be so bloated up it was really uncomfortable. You can do an internet search for “soaking grains” and you will find the why and how for things like sourdough bread, oatmeal, rice, beans, nuts, pancakes etc. I think the fact that we don’t do that anymore is one of the many reasons we are all so messed up. People did not used to eat grains prepared quicky the way we do now and we can’t digest them without proper preparation and also our body can’t absorb minerals properly unless we soak, ferment or sprout our grains. I highly recommend it. Oh, the other thing I changed was I cannot eat apples raw for the same reason and so I saute them first and eat with cream. Yum!
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April 28, 2010 at 10:17 am #3665MetalMXMemberI spoke too soon. Few days after i got off HC i started crashing…. mmm my adrenals are screwed.
On 3 grains and 15-20mg of HC i might even need to lower the thyroid dosage because my temps are still low. One thing i keep feeling is cold like chills or something goosebumps and they are coming from up my back too lol adrenals looks like i will need to be on for a while
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