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still stable an well. very happy as i know i have cracked this adrenal/thyroid mystery. i am managing to play sport and keep well the nest day. that last 2.5mg of hc has made a big difference.
Has anyone had a smell and taste loss or reduced sensation due to adrenal issues?
This is really annoying. It just makes you enjoy food a lot less.
My temps are up and down but a little bit more stable with HC even though it is a miniscule 5mg. I have been using Dr rinds metabolic chart. They aren’t up and down by .2 tenths more like a degree or more lol…
Im still experiencing energy, appetite and stomach issues mostly.
With HC did it actually improve your physique? Or if say someone had severe adrenal fatigue would they have to go through a little bit of weight gain to see improvement in the general body and temps with HC use.
What happened to your body marsaday when you first started using HC? What did you notice?
your temps show adrenals are not working and 5mg of hc is nothing. you could go on 10mg straight away, say 5/2.5/2.5 per day. When i first did hc 5mg affected me straight away, but i needed 15mg to work properly after a while. i was on 2 grains then.
now i am on 3 grains and need 22.5mg. i really think i am fully better, but want to push into going hyperT ever so slightly. this will then show you what your optimum dose is.
since 3 grains i have really started to loose the fat around the stomach. i was never fat, it was just a covering i could never get rid of. i wasnt interested in dieting or exercising to get rid of it as i realised it was nothing to do with that. now it is goingthough, it is a good feeling.
hc has never put any weight on to me by the way. but getting balanced has meant my muscles are getting bigger. couple this with less fat and i am starting to look good again – so the good lady says 🙂
i cannot tell you if hc or thyroid are responsible for this change because one their own i dont think i could get balanced. however, i do think the thyroid hormones are the main driver to getting well. i do know this because i stopped taking my armour autumn of 08 and became really ill 3 mths later (even though i was on hc). i also increased from 15mg to 25/30mg thinking this is what i needed to do to get well again. it didnt work because what i needed most was the thyroid hormones.
My doctor thinks i have irritable bowel syndrome causing my symptoms. I am about to do a lactose intolerance stool test and coeliac gene test since these foods trigger worsening of symptoms for me. Most of my symptoms are digestive and fatigue related. Premature ejaculation, low sex drive and muscle weakness being the others.
But then again this could be due to adrenals and resolve when i add more HC to my thyroid meds. I will just keep tracking temps and monitoring symptoms and see how i go. Food allergies cause adrenals to crash even worse so no wonder the above foods make me worse when i get on enough HC i would probably be able to tolerate these foods again in moderation. Marsaday do you have any food intolerance/digestive issues with gluten/diary?
I have that exact same problem with fat around the stomach area it is so so easy to gain and i am always following a very healthy diet, exercising and never eating junk food. My body is on the lanky side and i still have this issue lol…
DAMN ADRENALS 😡
Good info in this thread should be a sticky regarding adrenal/thyroid issues.
ibs is an adrenal/thyroid symptom. i am not sure which is the main cause though. when i am not well i break wind a lot.
i dont have any food allergies that i know of, but i have been reading a good book on stress and the dr says a poor diet causes the bowl to inflame. this causes cortisol to rise and so cause these adrenal problems. my cortisol, however, was too low and so i dont think i have this problem.
still doing really well and my stomach muscles are really coming through. i havent changed anything with regards to diet and exercise. it is just the body working as it should.
my legs muscles are getting really strong now which is great. before, when unwell, my body just would not respond to any amount of training.
@marsaday1971 2556 wrote:
ibs is an adrenal/thyroid symptom. i am not sure which is the main cause though. when i am not well i break wind a lot.
i dont have any food allergies that i know of, but i have been reading a good book on stress and the dr says a poor diet causes the bowl to inflame. this causes cortisol to rise and so cause these adrenal problems. my cortisol, however, was too low and so i dont think i have this problem.
still doing really well and my stomach muscles are really coming through. i havent changed anything with regards to diet and exercise. it is just the body working as it should.
my legs muscles are getting really strong now which is great. before, when unwell, my body just would not respond to any amount of training.
Im constantly breaking wind. You’re right IBS is a adrenal/thyroid problem.
How long have you been on Hydrocortisone?
I still need to get both thyroid and adrenals sorted. I am now only on synthetic T4 and T3 and this is driving up my SHBG big time mine is 140 (10-70). So i am looking to add ERFA thyroid to this which i will order or armour if i can get it and lower the Synthetic T4 dosage.
Is Armour still any good or what?
And are you only on Armour Thyroid?
You mentioned you’re on 3 grains i assumed you meant Armour… I tried a compounded thyroid here in australia which is called Thyroid Extract and was using 80mg a day and my Free T4 and Free T3 we’re in the lowest normal range almost out of range so i could’ve just been not taking enough but i wasn’t working for me whatsoever once i switched to the Levo/Cytomel combo i felt 100 times better.
I will continue with these meds i am on and only add either ERFA or Armour as these are obviously still the best two thyroid meds on the market.
ive been on hc since sep 09.
i use thyroid-s, not armour. erfa sounds the best and armour is no more i think, so stick with erfa.
i think you will need to balance your thyroid and adrenals. work on both and monitor how you go. only make one change at a time because you will have no idea what is helping you. i imagine you will want to be on hc first at a decent amount -say 15mg a day, then try upping the thyroid meds.
not feeling good today and it is due to a switch in meds.
I have been using thiroyd from a canadian pharmacy. they are white tablets in a small white plastic container. today i have switched to thyroid-s from thailand (the brown tablet) and wondered if i should feel a difference between them at all.
i dont think i feel as good on the Throid-s and am a bit worried. is it normal to feel some differences and then you settle down again? i just notice my breathing isnt as free as yesterday.
Only thing I can tell you is when you switch from one brand to the other you can fall low or go up to high. Going to high your heart rate and BP can go up and you will feel hyper falling low you feel down fatigue and this can shorten your breath. I would start taking your temps after your up 3 hrs 3x’s a day every 3 hrs add them up and div. by 3 this is your avg. put this on a chart you can print off from this link.
http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graphIf your falling low your avg. temp will fall if your going to high your avg. temp will go up. Still you need to hold this dose for 6 to 8 weeks to do labs it takes this long to stabilize in your body. After your labs is your temps are low and you feel bad and your labs are low go up on the med no more then 30 mgs so your don’t stress out your adrenals even more. Hold again and retest wash and repeat.
It is too bad we have to go through this crap with the FDA stopping Armour and the other Thyoud Co.’s can’t keep up. If I were you I would get on ERFA.
http://www.erfa-sa.com/thyroid_usa.htmPeople I talk to are doing much better on this then they did on the old Armour.
@marsaday1971 2563 wrote:not feeling good today and it is due to a switch in meds.
I have been using thiroyd from a canadian pharmacy. they are white tablets in a small white plastic container. today i have switched to thyroid-s from thailand (the brown tablet) and wondered if i should feel a difference between them at all.
i dont think i feel as good on the Throid-s and am a bit worried. is it normal to feel some differences and then you settle down again? i just notice my breathing isnt as free as yesterday.
I am doing better again and think i know why. thyroid-s has a hard coating so it acts as a slow release formula (so someone says) and so i have taken all 3 grains at 8am and feel fine.
fingers crossed all will be ok.
Just to update. It seems i had/have a chronic hidden infection which is causing my symptoms. It is either H.Pylori or something else my doctor isn’t sure but since i had chronic gastritis diagnosed it is what could be causing the gastritis in the first place. But it is what is adding my adrenal issues if not causing them directly.
I kept having tingling in my throat, nausea, muscle weakness, malaise and fatigue, poor appetite, lack of taste and smell. gas etc…
But now i feel much better after using a course of herbal antibacterial supplements which have really seemed to helped.
Im about to do a hydrogen breath test for H.Pylori and a stool test if this comes back negative.
My temps now in the morning we’re 36.2C, 36.4C. Still up and down though but if i can find out what exactly i have then i’m betting temps will go up and become stable.
I think a lot of people have adrenal issues but then their is sometimes a underlying cause as to why they are having these issues which can be fixed.
I doubt i have any infection now im just going to check for H.Pylori via a breath test. It is just that these GI symptoms are so annoying you would think you have something in your gut causing all this.
Im sure these are all adrenal issues. Im only on 5mg at the moment of HC and now going up. But i’m wondering about something HAN said does 10mg a day actually shut you down while your on that dose for a while or not?
Also ive noted that the STTM website has posted a new article on how to treat adrenals which is great:
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/how-to-treat/
As HAN mentioned with adrenal issues you end up getting a pooling of thyroid in the bloodstream and you are feeling hyper (as i was) yet their is a deficiency in the tissues and this is taxing the adrenals so HC allows the thyroid to enter the cells and then you can add more thyroid as your adrenal function improves.
Right now im on 100mcg of T4 and 30 or 40mcg of T3. I need the T4 but i dont know how much i need and i’m feeling its going into reverse due to my symptoms.
Im probably on the equivalent of 2 grains.
What i want to know is – are the thyroid blood test ranges even that important?. I have spoken with another Dr which has told me it simply doesn’t tell you what is happening at the cellular level when you could be having continuing hypothyroid symptoms.
I cannot even comprehend what someone is saying to me when i’m not on HC its unbelieveable. Not to mention the depression you feel, fatigue, not wanting to do anything yet i feel hyperactive. Now i can relax a little bit more and catch my breath.
So how long are people on HC… months? years? Till the adrenals start to heal.
My blood cortisol levels and ACTH we’re normal but has anyone seen read or heard about anyone having normal blood levels yet they did a stim test and found out they had insufficiency? I am just curious about this because i did a stim test probably 1 and a half years ago which my endo said was normal but i didn’t get the results then nor was i on thyroid hormone at that time for my hashimoto’s.
I’ve been on HC for little over 2 years. I would say at least a year. I was on 25mg for a good year and half, then 20mg and now 15mg.
I would consider taking a good multivitamin and extra Vit. C.
@MetalMX 2585 wrote:
I cannot even comprehend what someone is saying to me when i’m not on HC its unbelieveable. Not to mention the depression you feel, fatigue, not wanting to do anything yet i feel hyperactive. Now i can relax a little bit more and catch my breath.
So how long are people on HC… months? years? Till the adrenals start to heal.
My blood cortisol levels and ACTH we’re normal but has anyone seen read or heard about anyone having normal blood levels yet they did a stim test and found out they had insufficiency? I am just curious about this because i did a stim test probably 1 and a half years ago which my endo said was normal but i didn’t get the results then nor was i on thyroid hormone at that time for my hashimoto’s.
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