Sudden symptoms need help.

[MetalMX]

I developed sudden symptoms about 2-3 days ago. These include more weakness of my thigh and forearm muscles and general weakness, feeling very mentally unwell, very slight hearing change and more drooping eyelids as well as pins and needles/tingling feeling down my spinal cord and all over my head.

I dont know if this is caused by a transient ischemic attack or not. Can anyone give me some advice as to what this could be?

I then started to take thyroxine 25mcg per day as my endocrinologist said couple days earlier. This seemed to improve my symptoms.

I did a blood test for endocrine hormones as well as Creatine Kinase and Iron studies, insulin and more. Also did a spinal x-ray incase this was caused by nerve compression.

[DrMariano2]

@MetalMX 902 wrote:

I developed sudden symptoms about 2-3 days ago. These include more weakness of my thigh and forearm muscles and general weakness, feeling very mentally unwell, very slight hearing change and more drooping eyelids as well as pins and needles/tingling feeling down my spinal cord and all over my head.

I dont know if this is caused by a transient ischemic attack or not.

The sudden onset of neurologic symptoms is a stroke until proven otherwise. That is one of the old rules of thumb in neurology. A neurological assessment needs to be done when this occurs – often in the emergency room in case emergency thrombolytic treatment needs to be done. When symptoms last longer than 24 hours, it is no longer a transient ischemic attack. Rather it would be a stroke.

Strokes are to the brain what heart attacks are to the heart. Unfortunately, too many people disregard how damaging a stroke is to health and do not act quickly. Yet, as soon as a person has chest pain, the thought of a heart attack occurs and assessment and treatment is sought immediately.

[MetalMX]

@DrMariano 903 wrote:

The sudden onset of neurologic symptoms is a stroke until proven otherwise. That is one of the old rules of thumb in neurology. A neurological assessment needs to be done when this occurs – often in the emergency room in case emergency thrombolytic treatment needs to be done. When symptoms last longer than 24 hours, it is no longer a transient ischemic attack. Rather it would be a stroke.

Strokes are to the brain what heart attacks are to the heart. Unfortunately, too many people disregard how damaging a stroke is to health and do not act quickly. Yet, as soon as a person has chest pain, the thought of a heart attack occurs and assessment and treatment is sought immediately.

I went to the ER today and they said that their isn’t anything life threatening from the neurological assessment she has done. She asked me to do a head CT Scan tomorrow which i’m about to do.

The only thing im scared of is if my supplement reigm of 4mg of folinic acid and 10mg methylcobalamin + 50mg of P5P per day for the last 6 weeks could have caused any of these symptoms?

Maybe you have an idea Dr Mariano, could high levels of any of these vitamins cause such problems?

[hardasnails1973]

It is highly unlikely your supplements where the cause of this but possible they may have made your hypothyrodism more pronounced. Usdra for folic acid is 4000 mcgs plus folinic acid was verified in your blood and urine test. DAn doctors have been using this protocol for years with great success but in your case your thyroid issue wAs never addressed properly

Now when your thyroid is being addressed as it should have in the first place then alot of these issue would have been addressed. Please list your last thyroid results and we will see just how improperly you were handled

You also had low blood pressure as well and the b12 should have held it. Right now you need to take a good look at all hormone systms and also your state of well being mentally. Most of your neuropathy is residing from hypothyroidism

[hardasnails1973]

It is highly unlikely your supplements where the cause of this but possible they may have made your hypothyrodism more pronounced. Usdra for folic acid is 4000 mcgs plus folinic acid was verified in your blood and urine test. DAn doctors have been using this protocol for years with great success but in your case your thyroid issue wAs never addressed properly

Now when your thyroid is being addressed as it should have in the first place then alot of these issue would have been addressed. Please list your last thyroid results and we will see just how improperly you were handled

You also had low blood pressure as well and the b12 should have held it. Right now you need to take a good look at all hormone systms and also your state of well being mentally. Most of your neuropathy is residing from long standing
hypothyroidism

[MetalMX]

@hardasnails1973 930 wrote:

It is highly unlikely your supplements where the cause of this but possible they may have made your hypothyrodism more pronounced. Usdra for folic acid is 4000 mcgs plus folinic acid was verified in your blood and urine test. DAn doctors have been using this protocol for years with great success but in your case your thyroid issue wAs never addressed properly

Now when your thyroid is being addressed as it should have in the first place then alot of these issue would have been addressed. Please list your last thyroid results and we will see just how improperly you were handled

You also had low blood pressure as well and the b12 should have held it. Right now you need to take a good look at all hormone systms and also your state of well being mentally. Most of your neuropathy is residing from long standing
hypothyroidism

I will get the results either today or in a few days for hormones including thyroid and will post them in this thread.

I understand what your saying perfectly. This has seriously pushed my body beyond its limits to the point where i almost felt like giving up yesterday night.

In terms of mental wellbeing is their any test i can do at home to assess myself?

[MetalMX]

I did a Non-contrast CT Brain scan.

Findings: The pineal gland is midline in position. The ventricles are of normal dimensions and are arranged symmetrically about the midline. There is normal differentiation between grey-white matter.

There is a abnormal widening of the sulci in both parietal lobes at the vertex – is their a history of substance use?

No obvious intracerebral space occupying lesion is demonstrated. A small sized pituitary gland is present. No abnormality is seen in the brain stem. The cerebellum appears normal.

No obvious abnormality detected in the region of the periventricular white matter.

CONCLUSION:

* Cortical atrophic changes in both parietal lobes at the vertex, abnormal for the patient’s young age. Is their a history of substance use?

* No space occupying lesion

(In regards to substance use in 2008 i used injectable anabolic steroids which i bought off the street so to speak i didn’t know their origin exactly but trusted the person and just injected them for a month. Had adverse side effects from these such as rapid weight gain, palpitations, swelling of the body. Also used clenbuterol on and off with varying doses sometimes higher sometimes lower. And add to that Dinitrophenol (DNP) 400mg per day for a 2 week period.)

[hardasnails1973]

@MetalMX 934 wrote:

I will get the results either today or in a few days for hormones including thyroid and will post them in this thread.

I understand what your saying perfectly. This has seriously pushed my body beyond its limits to the point where i almost felt like giving up yesterday night.

In terms of mental wellbeing is their any test i can do at home to assess myself?

Dealing with the mental aspect of things this can be related to your thyroid as I am experiencing the same thing. I just want to give up and tired off constantly fighting anymore, but I identified this was not m normal pattern of thinking. When I got my thyroid test results back it explained everything. Armour for us will not work as your intestinal tract is inflammed same as mine is. I switch to west thyroid do prevent this from happening because once i got the new batch of armour I just did not feel right, and still continue to get worse. I knew it was my thyroid, but could was like how could it be since I took care of the problem by switching. I barely have the strength to stand up alone to get out of bed.

If your case getting hormones in check along with proper counseling will be the best route to recovery. i do not need counseling because I was fine before all this Armour changed happened. Finally after getting dialed in its all back to ground zero. As soon as i saw my Alkaline phosphotase I knew what it was as primary cause. Later down the page I saw low t-4 total to verifies it.

[MetalMX]

@hardasnails1973 945 wrote:

Dealing with the mental aspect of things this can be related to your thyroid as I am experiencing the same thing. I just want to give up and tired off constantly fighting anymore, but I identified this was not m normal pattern of thinking. When I got my thyroid test results back it explained everything. Armour for us will not work as your intestinal tract is inflammed same as mine is. I switch to west thyroid do prevent this from happening because once i got the new batch of armour I just did not feel right, and still continue to get worse. I knew it was my thyroid, but could was like how could it be since I took care of the problem by switching. I barely have the strength to stand up alone to get out of bed.

If your case getting hormones in check along with proper counseling will be the best route to recovery. i do not need counseling because I was fine before all this Armour changed happened. Finally after getting dialed in its all back to ground zero. As soon as i saw my Alkaline phosphotase I knew what it was as primary cause. Later down the page I saw low t-4 total to verifies it.

Yeah not being able to get out of bed sucks.

What do you make of the Brain CT Scan? what is this cortical atrophy, can this be related in anyway to hormonal deficiencies?

Also these symptoms kind of hit me head on 5 days ago. But now this evening the mental symptoms are going away and im starting to feel normal again. what the hell…
I also noticed i have like a pimple or small abcess on my spine where all that tingling was happening…

hardasnails another thing which i have started doing is rubbing the hemp seed oil and coconut oil into my body, legs, arms etc… and soon after i can feel it going into my bloodstream and circulation. Maybe you can try this is its not too time consuming… at least it bypasses digestion.

[hardasnails1973]

i know what you are going through and right now the pain in my joint is so unbearable thinking it was estrogen related when it has been thyroid all along. I will probably spend most of the day in bed as well so if you do not hear from me for a few days you know why. My brain fog and typing skills are being impacted. The pain is unbearable that I am taking percocet to help deal with it which i never resort to unless last resort. Getting up out of bed I took a few steps and my legs gave out on me because feeling incredible weak. I ending up smacking my head on the dresser with a big lump. Putting ice on it now. Lying in bed typing on lap tap. Going from benching 315 for 10 to 275 to 2-3 in less then 2 months was sign that some thing was wrong. I could go 6 months never benching walk in and still get 315 for a few with out struggle, but to go drop that much strengthh in short amount of time there had to be something else at play

[MetalMX]

@hardasnails1973 949 wrote:

i know what you are going through and right now the pain in my joint is so unbearable thinking it was estrogen related when it has been thyroid all along. I will probably spend most of the day in bed as well so if you do not hear from me for a few days you know why. My brain fog and typing skills are being impacted. The pain is unbearable that I am taking percocet to help deal with it which i never resort to unless last resort. Getting up out of bed I took a few steps and my legs gave out on me because feeling incredible weak. I ending up smacking my head on the dresser with a big lump. Putting ice on it now. Lying in bed typing on lap tap. Going from benching 315 for 10 to 275 to 2-3 in less then 2 months was sign that some thing was wrong. I could go 6 months never benching walk in and still get 315 for a few with out struggle, but to go drop that much strengthh in short amount of time there had to be something else at play

LOL you make is sound as though you are benching light weights…. but still its a drop and no wonder you don’t feel well. All these issues i am sick of it, fucking body why don’t you just work properly!!!!!!!!!

I can bench 50lbs for what maybe 6-8 reps right now lol… that is fantastic 😛

I just think about the day i become 100% with good appetite, body staying very lean easily hello 8 pack, muscles growing, easy to think/perform tasks/solve issues, sex drive and performance being awesome and having endless energy….

that always keeps me going…

[MetalMX]

Dr Mariano, with symptoms such as difficulty in speech, poor memory, “feeling mentally unwell”. Forearm weakness “forearms feeling dead”. And the CT Scan was normal… then why is this happening?!?!?

I am only on 25mcg of T4, which i take every night. But a few hours before i should take it my symptoms begin to really worsen like freezing cold hands, absolute cold intolerance and onset of neurological symptoms, with tingling on top of the head. Once i take it i feel a bit better and the coldness begins to reduce.

I am still waiting for blood tests which still haven’t come in.

And does my cortical atrophy mean anything?

Is this related in any way to lack of hormone signaling?

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