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[charliebizz]

any input dr m

[charliebizz]

just a little update got acouple test from zrt and here are my results

estradiol(blood SPOT)26

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pg/ml 12-56
testosterone(blood spot)306

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ng/dl 400–1200
dheas(BLOOD spot)281

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ug/dl 70—325
free t3 (blood spot)2.2

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pg/ml 2.5—-6.5

i was only on 10mg of dhea the rest was natural supps and vitamins.

i really dont know where to go next i still dont have medical benefits.
so im still in a tough spot. since my dhea is in good range could that be telling me that my adrenals are doing good or is that not always the case.

any recommendations would be great

[hardasnails1973]

Getting LH and thyroid going will help feed the mechanism to create solid testosterone levels.
I have had a few guys once thyroid was regulated T levels jumped from 250 to over 700 with no other variables added. If you are low thyroid this may affect LH production and also your testosterone levels. Your e2 levels are not to high to cause negative feedback loop for lower T ..If your e2 was >40 then possible, but not with your current levels. I suspect you are secondary 100%, but simple clomid challenge test would identify this and would get your T going then your thyroid may also rebalance but you need to idenitfy cortisol level. I can have a test kit sent to you for 119 to identify this.

Check adrenals – doable
thyroid – done
testosterone done

all this is doable.

[charliebizz]

@hardasnails1973 1678 wrote:

Getting LH and thyroid going will help feed the mechanism to create solid testosterone levels.
I have had a few guys once thyroid was regulated T levels jumped from 250 to over 700 with no other variables added. If you are low thyroid this may affect LH production and also your testosterone levels. Your e2 levels are not to high to cause negative feedback loop for lower T ..If your e2 was >40 then possible, but not with your current levels. I suspect you are secondary 100%, but simple clomid challenge test would identify this and would get your T going then your thyroid may also rebalance but you need to idenitfy cortisol level. I can have a test kit sent to you for 119 to identify this.

Check adrenals – doable
thyroid – done
testosterone done

all this is doable.

does the good dhea level tel anything about adrenal function

[hardasnails1973]

Yes low dhea is associated with first stage of high cortisol levels then in your case the later stage. Once you get medical insurance this job will be much more cost effective and more clinical sound. I understand you are trying to do the best you can with the tools you have, but with out some kind of guide we are just shooting in the dark. Once we get the salvia and the clomid challenge completed this will give us more clinical data to work with. No matter how good I may be with muscle testing I still like clinical data to track the progress.

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