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September 1, 2009 at 4:04 pm #1307BlackJackMember
Im not really sure what todo…. my Total T isnt to bad but its my dang BAT and FREE T
i have ruled out nutrient deficiencies, thyroid, adrenals, and diet.
the only way im thinking to boost T to top of range is via HCG / T shots
im 25 year old and probably have a normal TT of a normal male in there 20’s the problem is , a health male may have 600tt but would most likely have a BAT near top of range, where mine as near low range
even if i optimize thyroid more and bring ferritin up a bit, i cant imagine that really doing much to BAT, maybe just a bit.. it seems im going to need more forces.
Total Testosterone 600 ( 250 – 1100 ng/dl )
Free Testosterone 100.8 ( 46 – 224 pg/ml )
BioAvailable Testosterone 211.6 (110 -575 ng/dl )
E2 Sensitive 27 ( 13 – 54 )SHBG 26 ( 7 – 49 nmol/L)
ALBUMIN, Serum 4.6 ( 3.6 – 5.1 g/dL )DHT 44 (25-75)
DHEAS 345 ( 110 – 510 mcg/dL)Pregnenolone 21 ( 13 – 208)
Progesterone 1 .4(high) < 1.4 ng/mL
Prolactin 6.5 ( 2 . 0 – 18.0 ng/ML)
IGF-1 313 ( 126 – 382 ng/mL)
IGFBP-1 5.0 ( 3.4 – 7.8)
FERRTIN 41 ( 20 – 345 )
Vit D 85 (20-100)Free T3 347 ( 230 – 430)
Total T3 110 ( 97 – 219)
Free T4 .9 ( .8 – 1.8)
Total T4 6.6 ( 4.5 – 12.5)
Reverse T3 21( 11- 32)Sodium 140 (135 – 146)
Potassium 4.3 ( 3.5 – 5.3)Norephinerine
258 Range: Supine ( 112- 658) ;; Upright: 217- 1109)September 1, 2009 at 5:12 pm #3388hardasnails1973Member@BlackJack 1592 wrote:
Im not really sure what todo…. my Total T isnt to bad but its my dang BAT and FREE T
i have ruled out nutrient deficiencies, thyroid, adrenals, and diet.
the only way im thinking to boost T to top of range is via HCG / T shots
im 25 year old and probably have a normal TT of a normal male in there 20’s the problem is , a health male may have 600tt but would most likely have a BAT near top of range, where mine as near low range
even if i optimize thyroid more and bring ferritin up a bit, i cant imagine that really doing much to BAT, maybe just a bit.. it seems im going to need more forces.
Total Testosterone 600 ( 250 – 1100 ng/dl )
Free Testosterone 100.8 ( 46 – 224 pg/ml )
BioAvailable Testosterone 211.6 (110 -575 ng/dl )
E2 Sensitive 27 ( 13 – 54 )SHBG 26 ( 7 – 49 nmol/L)
ALBUMIN, Serum 4.6 ( 3.6 – 5.1 g/dL )DHT 44 (25-75)
DHEAS 345 ( 110 – 510 mcg/dL)Pregnenolone 21 ( 13 – 208)
Progesterone 1 .4(high) < 1.4 ng/mL
Prolactin 6.5 ( 2 . 0 – 18.0 ng/ML)
IGF-1 313 ( 126 – 382 ng/mL)
IGFBP-1 5.0 ( 3.4 – 7.8)
FERRTIN 41 ( 20 – 345 )
Vit D 85 (20-100)Free T3 347 ( 230 – 430)
Total T3 110 ( 97 – 219)
Free T4 .9 ( .8 – 1.8)
Total T4 6.6 ( 4.5 – 12.5)
Reverse T3 21( 11- 32)Sodium 140 (135 – 146)
Potassium 4.3 ( 3.5 – 5.3)Norephinerine
258 Range: Supine ( 112- 658) ;; Upright: 217- 1109)your thyroid still has room to grow as well as getting proper ferritin levels to make it function better at the tissue level. With low ferritin you are not getting the true response of thyroid in the blood that you should high ferritin will increase the testosterone and dopamine levels. Adding HCG would be futile at this point.
September 1, 2009 at 5:39 pm #3390BlackJackMemberi agree HCG would be futile ,, but it would keep my nuts healthy and i dont think clomid or hcg will do muc hense the reason going right for testosterone+hcg
September 1, 2009 at 6:25 pm #3391BlackJackMemberis it possible high antibodies are keeping testosterone bound up?
and switching and or increasing thyoloar will bring down ANTIS therefore raise testonerone?
basically were running out of options, i mean my ferritin was already at 115, my thyroid isnt terrible.. i just dont see how else to bring up BAT up and over 400./.
September 1, 2009 at 7:50 pm #3389hardasnails1973Member@BlackJack 1596 wrote:
is it possible high antibodies are keeping testosterone bound up?
and switching and or increasing thyoloar will bring down ANTIS therefore raise testonerone?
basically were running out of options, i mean my ferritin was already at 115, my thyroid isnt terrible.. i just dont see how else to bring up BAT up and over 400./.
Once thyrolar gets back on the market then u willl have high anit.
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