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August 12, 2009 at 1:51 pm #2663DrMariano2Participant
An additionally important action of iodine:
Iodine is a antioxidant. Thus, it helps reduce pro-inflammatory signaling, which can cause myriad condition. This may explain how it may help treat HPA Axis dysregulation with low cortisol output.
August 12, 2009 at 2:58 pm #2665hardasnails1973Memberwill help answer alot of questions
September 10, 2009 at 2:42 am #2677ScorpioChiqMemberI was on 1 iodoral table (12.5mg iodine) for 7 months … shortly after starting it my antibodies (Anti-thyrog. and Anti-TPO) increased from 70 and 100 respectively to well over 400. Six weeks after stopping it the antibodies went back to normal, albiet heigher than desired.
September 10, 2009 at 2:05 pm #2666hardasnails1973Member@ScorpioChiq 1685 wrote:
I was on 1 iodoral table (12.5mg iodine) for 7 months … shortly after starting it my antibodies (Anti-thyrog. and Anti-TPO) increased from 70 and 100 respectively to well over 400. Six weeks after stopping it the antibodies went back to normal, albiet heigher than desired.
Did you have the iodine load test completed? If not then there was no validation for the iodoral in the first place. Under no circumstance would I recommend iodoral to a person with hashi unless being tested. if they are low then I would tell them that the dangerous of low iodine would out weight the risk of hashimotos.
September 11, 2009 at 2:07 am #2678ScorpioChiqMember@hardasnails1973 1690 wrote:
Did you have the iodine load test completed? If not then there was no validation for the iodoral in the first place. Under no circumstance would I recommend iodoral to a person with hashi unless being tested. if they are low then I would tell them that the dangerous of low iodine would out weight the risk of hashimotos.
Yep I did the iodine loading test. Results:
Iodine 30 (ref 0.1 – 0.45 mg/24 hr)
% of extretion/24 hr = 60%
September 11, 2009 at 2:31 am #2667hardasnails1973MemberReason they went up is because iodine depletes selenium which lowers antibodies.
Another person started iodoral and when FIA tested showed low selenium. One also needs to support the NIS transport system with b2, niacin, vitamin C, magnesium to update the iodine.September 11, 2009 at 12:58 pm #2679ScorpioChiqMember@hardasnails1973 1698 wrote:
Reason they went up is because iodine depletes selenium which lowers antibodies.
Another person started iodoral and when FIA tested showed low selenium. One also needs to support the NIS transport system with b2, niacin, vitamin C, magnesium to update the iodine.I am thinking of trying it again … thing is, i foudn it very hard on my adrenals …
I take a multiv, magnesium to bowel tolerance, vit C and selenium. Are you suggesting adding additional B2 and niacin outside the multiv.?
September 11, 2009 at 3:57 pm #2668hardasnails1973Member@ScorpioChiq 1702 wrote:
I am thinking of trying it again … thing is, i foudn it very hard on my adrenals …
I take a multiv, magnesium to bowel tolerance, vit C and selenium. Are you suggesting adding additional B2 and niacin outside the multiv.?
Please reference this site.
http://www.iodine4health.com/September 13, 2009 at 3:48 am #2681MebigusmallMemberSo a regular person could take a 12.5 mg iodoral tab every day? Who are the 50mg pills made for.
How does it benefit those with thyroid conditions who are taking thyroid meds? I am just wondering if the purpose is to keep up some endogenous production.
Also have you guys come to a consensus on the best product to use in relation to cost vs results and peice of mind? thanks.
Let me just say I forgot this board existed, I am only like two threads in and I am loving the quality info.
September 13, 2009 at 5:18 pm #2680ScorpioChiqMember@ScorpioChiq 1702 wrote:
I am thinking of trying it again … thing is, i foudn it very hard on my adrenals …
I take a multiv, magnesium to bowel tolerance, vit C and selenium. Are you suggesting adding additional B2 and niacin outside the multiv.?
I tried is Saturday – just a 6mg pill = all my muscles tightened up (adrenal stress), edema … it’s not for me. I react terribly to excess iodine. I even tried adding c salt and extra vit c etc
September 13, 2009 at 9:06 pm #2682MebigusmallMember@Jean 800 wrote:
From a e-book about iodine
The bottom line, however, is that the right amount of dietary
Iodide for optimum human health and happiness is about 6-
14 mg, per adult, per day. The best final dosage of Iodide
for most men is 8-12 mg. The best final dosage of Iodide
for most women is 12 mg per day. About 90-95% of
American adults can start right at those high final doses
with no health problems.
Even 1 mg per day, however, is still too high a
dosage for about 5-10% of American adults to begin with.
It may take months, or even years, for the millions of
Americans suffering from more severe thyroid problems
and/or “diabetic neuropathy” to get used to eating that
much Iodide. This is because as dying peripheral nerves
start being revived with more optimal Iodide levels and
metabolism, for months or even years, they usually still do
not function normally.If they increase their dosage too quickly, it may
cause their malfunctioning peripheral nerves to come back
to life too quickly, and thereby temporarily cause (for a
period of months) extremely intense itching and/or pain.
Even people who are just overweight, or who
suffer from an excessively rapid resting pulse rate (over 90
beats per second) also commonly have some short-term
problems adjusting to more rapid metabolism, and thus
need to go very slowly in increasing their dosage. It turns
out that most people with high pulse rates actually have
slow metabolism, due to poor general activation, and/or
use, of Thyroid Hormones. Their hearts usually run too
fast because they have high levels of the inactive Thyroid
Hormone, T4, and the heart is better at activating and using
T4 than the rest of the body is.The publicly un-proclaimed Iodide
supplementation program of the 1960’s was also associated
with reductions in the rates of cancer and cardiovascular
diseases, with generally improving intelligence, emotional
health, and happiness, and with increased capacity to fall
and stay in love, in both men and women. Recall that those
adults under that age of 30 during the 1960’s, and those
who came of age during the 1960’s, were called “The Love
Generation,” “Free Lovers,” “Digger,” and “Flower
Children.” With the increased level of dietary Iodide
during the 1960’s, Americans ended up with the highest
birth rates and marriage rates in American history, and the
lowest divorce rates (as a percentage of marriages) since
the 1920’s.For the time being, let me just assert that ½ mg of
Iodide per day is still so little that most older people will
hardly notice any difference right away. In fact, that may
be why the famous “generation gap” developed during the
1960’s. Generally speaking, older people did not get as
much dietary Iodide as younger people because they ate
less baked goods. Also with the lower Melatonin levels
and higher sex hormone levels in the elderly, they were not
as sensitive to what whatever Iodide they did get. Thus,
they continued with their grumpier attitudes and in their
older more materialistic ways, while the young generation
felt happy, carefree, fell in love, had children and got
married at record rates. The older generations could not
understand why so many teenagers were throwing
prudence to the wind, falling in-love, getting pregnant and
getting married. The younger generation could not
understand what had made their parents so cold and
materialistic. They could not understand why their parents
did not know that love is the most important thing in life.
Whether or not the young got more Iodide than
their parents during the 1960’s, they had lower sex
hormone level because of their youth and higher Melatonin
levels, so they were much more sensitive to, and affected
by, even slightly higher levels of Iodine. When you have
low sex hormone levels going in, just a little more Iodide
than the average American is getting today can speed-up
your metabolism and Progesterone production. That in
turn can very significantly further suppress your sex
hormone levels, and thereby delay the onset of puberty,
improve and extend the development of intelligence by
delaying and extending puberty, intensify and extend
romantic feelings during and after puberty, and enhance
and maintain the ability to fall and stay overwhelmingly in
love.Can you explain the melatonin vs sex hormone thing again, I am kind of lost.
October 8, 2009 at 12:25 am #2683MebigusmallMemberSo would it be harmfull for one with out hashis to just take 50 mg for a while with out a loading test? Is the loading test expensive?
Honestly 24 hour urine tests are such a pain.
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