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August 1, 2009 at 4:23 pm #1222berealMember
I have had a lot of health issues due to mercury, lead, arsenic, and uranium toxicity,
which has shown up consistently in my hair analysis. I think this is one of the causes
of my long term CFS, one of the main reasons for the recurring viral infections that
I suffer from, and also one of the main obstacles to balancing my hormones–due to
the fact that these toxins are known to be “endocrine disruptors.”As I clear the metals s-l-o-w-l-y over these past few years, in order to avoid the nasty
side effects that heavy metal detox can cause, I am feeling somewhat better. I have a
hyper-sensitive nervous system and can’t handle strong chelators like DMSA and EDTA,
so I’m using N-A-C (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) along with PCA Rx–which is a clathration, rather
than chelation product.QUESTION: I’m wondering what other gentle and more natural options I might have for
chelation? I’ve heard and read about ALA (alpha lipoic acid) being effective as well. Does
anyone here have any personal experiences with ALA, or with heavy metal detoxification
in general? If so, I’m curious to know what has worked for you?August 1, 2009 at 4:56 pm #3008hardasnails1973Member@bereal 1202 wrote:
I have had a lot of health issues due to mercury, lead, arsenic, and uranium toxicity,
which has shown up consistently in my hair analysis. I think this is one of the causes
of my long term CFS, one of the main reasons for the recurring viral infections that
I suffer from, and also one of the main obstacles to balancing my hormones–due to
the fact that these toxins are known to be “endocrine disruptors.”As I clear the metals s-l-o-w-l-y over these past few years, in order to avoid the nasty
side effects that heavy metal detox can cause, I am feeling somewhat better. I have a
hyper-sensitive nervous system and can’t handle strong chelators like DMSA and EDTA,
so I’m using N-A-C (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) along with PCA Rx–which is a clathration, rather
than chelation product.QUESTION: I’m wondering what other gentle and more natural options I might have for
chelation? I’ve heard and read about ALA (alpha lipoic acid) being effective as well. Does
anyone here have any personal experiences with ALA, or with heavy metal detoxification
in general? If so, I’m curious to know what has worked for you?Iodoral has shown to help with removing mercury from the tissue. If you have a high elemental reading on your hair analysis then it may also be an indicator of your body trying to unload as well. I took a course on hair analysis and they are extremely tricky to read meaning that if one level is high it actually may be deficient. When metals are in the body one needs to look for what they bind do. With mercury you will see low selenium and low zinc so on. Too much detoxifcation at one time is not a good idea as it can make symptoms worse and actually recirculate metals (such as mercury) deeper into the brain creating more issues. You really need to know what you are doing because giving one herb before the other can make all the difference in successing or failure. You need to clean the gut first get all channels opening before you even start to chelate metals. IMO you are asking for trouble trying to to every thing at once to fast and to quick. I have gone through all of this my self first hand so I know all the mistakes people make. I have been to top specialist in the country for mercury detoxifcation spent over 15,000 in 2 months but felt the best I did in years. Now 5 years later I am natural health consultant that deals with all aspects of detoxification. Go slow and steady, ones hormones may need supported since mercury gets into the pituitary and can cause alot of havoc in all systems of the body.
August 1, 2009 at 5:44 pm #3016berealMember@hardasnails1973 1205 wrote:
Iodoral has shown to help with removing mercury from the tissue.
You need to clean the gut first get all channels opening before you even start to chelate metals.
IMO you are asking for trouble trying to to every thing at once to fast and to quick. I have gone through all
of this my self first hand so I know all the mistakes people make. I have been to top specialist in the country
for mercury detoxifcation spent over 15,000 in 2 months but felt the best I did in years.Go slow and steady, ones hormones may need supported since mercury gets into the pituitary and can cause
alot of havoc in all systems of the body.* I have tried Iodoral and cannot tolerate it. It over-stimulates my system and gives me palpitations.
* When you say, “clean the gut,” what do you mean specifically? I have been eating an all organic diet for 3
decades. At this point I eat mostly raw vegies, a little fruit, some nuts and seeds, goat dairy and some meat,
but barely any grains, and absolutely NO processed food. Also, I have done many gut cleansing products in
the past. Do you have something else to suggest for my gut, that might be helpful?* I am currently working with an ND, who is helping me with the hormonal balancing. So I think I will stick
with her, regarding all that. I’m reading what’s posted on this site and most of it concurs with her thoughts.* As I STRESSED IN MY POST–I am indeed going very S-L-O-W-L-Y with the detox protocol. So actually
I’m not “asking for trouble,” just for positive input and good advice. 😉Any other useful info that you have regarding gentle chelators and detox protocols would be appreciated.
August 1, 2009 at 6:09 pm #3009hardasnails1973MemberWhen detoxing mercury you need to use chlorella before cilantro. One unlocks it from the tissue and other one pushes it out. NDF is a good product as well, but the idea of both of them combined kinds of worries me. I would prefer to do it in stages You may not be tolerating iodoral because of it dumping bromide into your system. Some people start with lugols with 1 drop a day for while. One can use celtic sea salts to help decrease reaction from iodine. Eating organic I have not found to be most nutrition way for people. This was verified through clincal intracellular nutrient analysis. I have ran into several people that have an out of balance nutrition because they eat organic. Surprising one would think the opposite, but when lab tests are showing other wise it makes me wonder about all this “organic” stuff. Diary and meats I can see but fruits and vegetables the qualifications to be considered organic is a joke. Its just appears to be a good market tool. I find it ironic that people spend all this money on organic food just to go outside and breath the crap in the air Living in California is not helping the problem of dealing with internal toxin in the first place because its a heavily polluted area in the first place. I be looking to move to Colorado or Wyoming if you are serious about improving ones health. Colorado spring has the 2nd best air in the USA. If your health is concern one would think of removing one self the toxic environment.
August 1, 2009 at 7:34 pm #3017berealMember@hardasnails1973 1211 wrote:
When detoxing mercury you need to use chlorella before cilantro. One unlocks it from the tissue and other one pushes it out. NDF is a good product as well, but the idea of both of them combined kinds of worries me.
You may not be tolerating iodoral because of it dumping bromide into your system. Some people start with lugols with 1 drop a day for while. One can use celtic sea salts to help decrease reaction from iodine.
Eating organic I have not found to be most nutrition way for people. This was verified through clincal intracellular nutrient analysis. I have ran into several people that have an out of balance nutrition because they eat organic. Surprising one would think the opposite, but when lab tests are showing other wise it makes me wonder about all this “organic” stuff. Diary and meats I can see but fruits and vegetables the qualifications to be considered organic is a joke. Its just appears to be a good market tool. I find it ironic that people spend all this money on organic food just to go outside and breath the crap in the air
Living in California is not helping the problem of dealing with internal toxin in the first place because its a heavily polluted area in the first place. I be looking to move to Colorado or Wyoming if you are serious about improving ones health. Colorado spring has the 2nd best air in the USA. If your health is concern one would think of removing one self the toxic environment.
* I have tried cilantro, but am allergic to algae, so I can’t take chlorella. I’ve never heard of NDF and will look it up.
* Some people do and some people don’t tolerate Iodoral. I think I’m in the latter category, as I’ve done okay with sea salt,
but even one drop of Iodoral can be a problem for me.* I COMPLETELY DISAGREE with your critique of organic foods. What I’ve read about the nutritional content of organic
vs. commercially grown food contradicts your opinion. Most research finds industrially grown food to be LESS nutritious.
Some reasearch, like that done at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine just recently finds organic to be
equal to commercial food. (Hmmm.. I wonder who did the funding for that project?) But no research I’ve read finds organic
to be LESS nutritious.
http://www.rawfoodlife.com/Articles___Research/Organic_vs_commercial_food/organic_vs_commercial_food.htm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2009/07/organic-food-no-more-nutritious-than-conventionallyraised-study-finds.htmlHaving CFS and being chemically sensitive I would NEVER consider eating food sprayed with chemicals that are known
carcinogens, neuro toxins and endocrine disruptors. That’s just bad advice. Why bother detoxing your body, if you’re going
to repoison yourself with each meal. :p* As for living in California… I live on the Monterey Bay, which is 2 blocks from my environmentally healthy house–which
I helped to design and had built in 1994–from all eco-friendly products. Since INDOOR air quality is often more important
than outdoor air quality, I’ve got that one covered! Also, since Dr. Mariano lives on the Monterey Bay as well, I can’t believe
it’s so very “toxic” here. When I lived in Colorado, I was much sicker.August 2, 2009 at 7:25 pm #3018berealMemberHere’s another great article about the pesticide contamination in non-organic produce.
“Almost Half of the fresh fruit and veg sold across the UK is contaminated with toxic pesticides,
according to the latest scientific surveys for the government.“Nearly every orange, 94% of pineapples and 90% of pears sampled were laced with traces of
chemicals used to kill bugs. High proportions of apples, grapes and tomatoes were also tainted, as
were parsnips, melons and cucumbers.”August 6, 2009 at 5:59 pm #3020wellshootmeMemberI have heard that clay baths can detox heavy metal. You add 1 or 2 cups of bentonite clay to your bath and soak for 30 minutes. There are pictures on net of things it has pulled out suck as black ot green residue it leaves in tubs. Also before and after blood tests showing that heavy metals went down. Sounds like something to try.
August 7, 2009 at 1:06 am #3019berealMember@wellshootme 1300 wrote:
I have heard that clay baths can detox heavy metal. You add 1 or 2 cups of bentonite clay to your bath and soak for 30 minutes. …Sounds like something to try.
I know bentonite works well on skin issues like pimples, and on bug bites, but never heard of it being put in
a tub of water to soak in. It certainly wouldn’t hurt. I’ve heard there are some sources of it that are more
pure than others. Do you know of a good pure source?August 7, 2009 at 2:30 am #3014gu3varaMember@bereal 1212 wrote:
* I have tried cilantro, but am allergic to algae, so I can’t take chlorella. I’ve never heard of NDF and will look it up.
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I don’t think NDF will be ok for you then as it’s nanonized chlorella. I took for many months and I think it’s reduced my heavy metals load a great deal, i had nothing showing up in a DMSA challenge test. But I took Lugol for a while too so difficult to say which one is responsible. Before that I had high aluminium, arsenic and mercury levels.
It’s normal to react strongly to iodine at try, I sometimes felt I was becoming crazy (pretty scary experience in fact) and had bad palpitations. It last 2 weeks, selenium, sea salt and vitamin c help a lot.
August 8, 2009 at 7:03 am #3021wellshootmeMemberI’m serious, I know it sounds weird but search the web for clay detox bath. It sounds like it could work faster than most remedies for heay metal poisoning. Also you will find that eating it is recommended. clay has been used in medicine (kaopectate):o:o
October 3, 2009 at 4:05 pm #3010MetalMXMemberAfter going on testosterone gel 3 weeks ago for a week i immediatly began feeling worse and my whole body just began to shut down. With odd bouts of dizziness, loss of appetite, some weight loss, more spitting saliva and mentally not right… depression, suicidal thoughts, inability to think or wanting to be around other people.
I then realised that HAN mentioned to me a couple of months back that using testosterone with a mercury burden is simply asking for trouble and can make the whole situation worse i now realised what had happened.
i present with classic mercury symptoms – short term memory loss, spitting saliva, stomatitis, posterior cortical atrophy on CT Brain scan, peripheral neuropathy on neurological examination, numbness and tingling in the extremities and head, decreased appetite, hyperactivity at times and chronic fatigue, muscle weakness.
October 3, 2009 at 7:53 pm #3022keithdolbyMemberI did a challenege test for mercury a few years ago, I did a protocol I found on dr. mark hyman’s website. I ended up taking 3,000 mg of DMSA at one time. I would advise not to do this, as I have been not doing too well ever since.
October 3, 2009 at 11:25 pm #3011MetalMXMemberI have been hesitant to even do the 250mg IV DMPS challenge as you never know what side effects you will experience and my health isn’t good enough for my symptoms to get any worse.
I am interested in trying the oral DMPS challenge which is taking 10-25mg of DMPS in a capsule form followed by urine collection for 6-8 hours i feel this is much safer and can indicate mercury burden to the same extent as the IV without the side effects.
October 4, 2009 at 8:07 am #3015JeanMembertry citrus it’s a natural stuff that work
October 5, 2009 at 10:52 am #3012MetalMXMemberI personally feel DMPS, DMSA, ETDA and all the other man made chelators can have possible serious side effects. The body isn’t simply able to remove these metals safely with these chelators if it did it would be able to on its own.
Has anyone here experienced low body temperature as a symptom of heavy metals?
Im not sure if one of my symptoms of tingling/Parasthesia all over different parts of my body could be related to mercury.
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