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    boatnerj
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    What is your personal opinion about food combining principles. There are many different variations, but it is usually something like do not eat starches and meat together, eat fruit alone, starches + veggies are fine, meat + veggies are fine, etc. I guess the basis is each different food needs a different digestive environment and when eaten together the ideal one cannot be attained for each.

    Also, what about the claims some people make that cooking food makes it harder to digest by killing naturally occuring enzymes, as well as reducing nutritional value?

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    I know you are not feeling well, but do not be like most people and start drawing strawls or throwing crap against the wall to see what sticks. Raw food diets are harsh on digestive tract and cause greater irritation. Your better off lightly steaming them. If you are going to eat raw meat you are out of your mind because of the bacteria that is found in even organic meat needs to be cooked to remove. If its not the bacteria from the meat then its from the people that are not washing there hands that are handling it. I talked to one of the patients about this and told him that you are just asking for trouble. Your system is already compromised why add insult to injury? Jack lemmon started that fad. Just eat a nice balanced diet, get plenty of sunshine, good sleep, practice mediatation and stress reduction. Too many people add undue stress worrying what they can and can not do. Eventually they become prisoner because of their own doing and phobias

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    DrMariano2
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    In general, a good diet is a nutrient dense diet. This means there is a large amount of nutrients (such as vitamins, minerals, essential fats, amino acids, etc.) per calorie in the diet.

    Non-nutrient dense diets tend to lead to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, mental illness, and other serious illnesses.

    Regarding raw food, the idea is to get as many nutrients as possible since cooking or processing may cause the loss of nutrients. However, this has to be balanced against safety. For example, most meats need to be cooked in order to kill disease-causing germs. Aside from creating variations in taste, cooking may be necessary to maintain food safety.

    Regarding combining principles, the idea again is to maximize nutrition. For those who are vegetarian, it is important to combine beans and grains, for example, to maximize amino acid availability in the food since a vegetarian diet may be deficient in up to six amino acids. Some diets – such as the traditional Eskimo and traditional Masai diets – don’t combine foods. They are primarily all meat or animal product diets. They are highly nutrient dense diets. Meats may not be fully available in some areas or an all meat diet may not be palatable to many, thus combining meats with non-meat foods is more desirable for many. I think no matter what combination one is considering, the important point is to choose the direction of greater nutrient density.

    #4421
    mcs5309
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    @DrMariano 3210 wrote:

    In general, a good diet is a nutrient dense diet. This means there is a large amount of nutrients (such as vitamins, minerals, essential fats, amino acids, etc.) per calorie in the diet.

    Non-nutrient dense diets tend to lead to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, mental illness, and other serious illnesses.

    Regarding raw food, the idea is to get as many nutrients as possible since cooking or processing may cause the loss of nutrients. However, this has to be balanced against safety. For example, most meats need to be cooked in order to kill disease-causing germs. Aside from creating variations in taste, cooking may be necessary to maintain food safety.

    Regarding combining principles, the idea again is to maximize nutrition. For those who are vegetarian, it is important to combine beans and grains, for example, to maximize amino acid availability in the food since a vegetarian diet may be deficient in up to six amino acids. Some diets – such as the traditional Eskimo and traditional Masai diets – don’t combine foods. They are primarily all meat or animal product diets. They are highly nutrient dense diets. Meats may not be fully available in some areas or an all meat diet may not be palatable to many, thus combining meats with non-meat foods is more desirable for many. I think no matter what combination one is considering, the important point is to choose the direction of greater nutrient density.

    Again, though, what is your opinion based on the food combining theory that proteins should never be eaten simultaneously with carbs, and fruits should be eaten alone because the enzymes, digestion rates, and pH for each differ?
    http://tuberose.com/Food_Combining.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_combining

    Do other omnivorous mammals or our ancestors practice food combining? My own personal feeling is the we never evolved to somehow practice this strict ritual of separating food groups like this and that a HEALTHY digestive system is more than capable of adequately breaking down and assimilating both macro and micro-nutrients from many different food groups eaten at the same time. I find the ritual highly contradictory in that no one foods is exlcusive to one of the three macro-nutrients.
    http://healthinmotion.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/facts-and-fears-about-the-food-combining-myth/

    Also, most of those of us on resistance training diets are told never to eat carbs or fruits alone and without eating protein at the same time because of the insulin surge from these carbs which leads to fat deposition.

    #4422
    boatnerj
    Member

    I agree. I am not worrying about stuff like this question now.

    You are a perfect example of what you said, so I take your advice wholeheartedly. Reading through some of your past posts on diff. forums whrn you were in your hell you definitely seemed to make it worse by worrying about every little thing (there seem to be lots of guys like this on the forums, and approaching it this way never seems to end well). You seem to have found heath and peace recently and it definitely seems to be linked to not worrying about it THAT much (but still doing what is necessary and reasonable/not obsessive).

    @hardasnails1973 3017 wrote:

    I know you are not feeling well, but do not be like most people and start drawing strawls or throwing crap against the wall to see what sticks. Raw food diets are harsh on digestive tract and cause greater irritation. Your better off lightly steaming them. If you are going to eat raw meat you are out of your mind because of the bacteria that is found in even organic meat needs to be cooked to remove. If its not the bacteria from the meat then its from the people that are not washing there hands that are handling it. I talked to one of the patients about this and told him that you are just asking for trouble. Your system is already compromised why add insult to injury? Jack lemmon started that fad. Just eat a nice balanced diet, get plenty of sunshine, good sleep, practice mediatation and stress reduction. Too many people add undue stress worrying what they can and can not do. Eventually they become prisoner because of their own doing and phobias

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    philipjames
    Member

    Its really a nice one.Thanks for sharing.

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