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    JanSz
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    In Sep/2005 I had LipoSarcoma surgery on a muscles (or rather between muscles) removed from my left thigh.

    It was mostly Lipoma.
    Sarcoma was attached to muscle near knee, so part of muscle there was shaved off.
    All was a size similar to a quart (of milk).
    After surgery I did not had any additional treatment.
    No radiation, no chemo.
    First year I had 2 checkups, in following years there were only yearly checkups.
    All is well per my surgeon at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in Manhattan NYC.

    I asked my surgeon about using Growth Hormone, the answer, absolutely no.

    I value opinion of my surgeon,
    but as usual have doubts.
    He is definitely good with a scalpel but I have no idea of the rest of his background.
    I see people with other cancers reporting use of GH.

    Now, there is also indirect way of raising ones GH via GH releasing peptides and/or similar ways.

    I am on TRT, also supporting adrenals and thyroid and feel rather good but my GH is low.

    5/27/2009
    IGF-1=108(19-30 years 126-382)
    IGFBP3=4.0(21-30 years 3.4-7.8)
    I am 69yo, 5′-9″, 160#

    I would benefit from raising my GH just what to do with my cancer?
    Is my surgeon really correct that raisin my GH would wake-up my cancer.
    He did not have any supporting evidence.

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    DrMariano2
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    @JanSz 852 wrote:

    In Sep/2005 I had LipoSarcoma surgery on a muscles (or rather between muscles) removed from my left thigh.

    It was mostly Lipoma.
    Sarcoma was attached to muscle near knee, so part of muscle there was shaved off.
    All was a size similar to a quart (of milk).
    After surgery I did not had any additional treatment.
    No radiation, no chemo.
    First year I had 2 checkups, in following years there were only yearly checkups.
    All is well per my surgeon at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in Manhattan NYC.

    I asked my surgeon about using Growth Hormone, the answer, absolutely no.

    I value opinion of my surgeon,
    but as usual have doubts.
    He is definitely good with a scalpel but I have no idea of the rest of his background.
    I see people with other cancers reporting use of GH.

    Now, there is also indirect way of raising ones GH via GH releasing peptides and/or similar ways.

    I am on TRT, also supporting adrenals and thyroid and feel rather good but my GH is low.

    5/27/2009
    IGF-1=108(19-30 years 126-382)
    IGFBP3=4.0(21-30 years 3.4-7.8)
    I am 69yo, 5′-9″, 160#

    I would benefit from raising my GH just what to do with my cancer?
    Is my surgeon really correct that raisin my GH would wake-up my cancer.
    He did not have any supporting evidence.

    .

    When a person has had cancer, growth hormone may increase the risk of recurrence of that cancer or promoting the growth of another hidden cancer.

    It is similar to this scenario: Suppose a woman had breast cancer and completed breast cancer treatment. Would treatment with estrogen and progesterone, even if it would function, be started or restarted in such a person?

    For my own patients, the answer is most probably no. The risk of recurrent breast cancer would be too high.

    A supporting point was when a colleague, who is well known as a practitioner for hormone replacement therapy, decided against hormone replacement therapy other than thyroid for her sister, after her sister developed breast cancer and was successfully treated.

    If the same thing happened to my own sister, I would do the same thing – avoiding treatment that would help fuel cancer.

    One only has to look at the prescribing information for growth hormone. Cancer is a contraindication.

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    JanSz
    Member

    @DrMariano 905 wrote:

    When a person has had cancer, growth hormone may increase the risk of recurrence of that cancer or promoting the growth of another hidden cancer.

    It is similar to this scenario: Suppose a woman had breast cancer and completed breast cancer treatment. Would treatment with estrogen and progesterone, even if it would function, be started or restarted in such a person?

    For my own patients, the answer is most probably no. The risk of recurrent breast cancer would be too high.

    A supporting point was when a colleague, who is well known as a practitioner for hormone replacement therapy, decided against hormone replacement therapy other than thyroid for her sister, after her sister developed breast cancer and was successfully treated.

    If the same thing happened to my own sister, I would do the same thing – avoiding treatment that would help fuel cancer.

    One only has to look at the prescribing information for growth hormone. Cancer is a contraindication.

    Dr. Mariano

    I hope your sister stay healthy and cancer free, but just in case keep eye on this:

    Suzan Sommers have operated breast cancer.
    she uses Growth Hormone injections

    Suzan Somers uses 0.08mg=0.24iu/day
    (page 66 of her book Breakthru)
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    BTW, there are also doctors around prescribing very high doses of testosterone to operated prostate cancer patients and are getting good results (patient lives and have low PSA).

    I am trying to be open minded as much as (reasonable),
    but hate to be a totally blinded guinea pig.
    Looking for some ray of hope.
    .

    #2753
    DrMariano2
    Participant

    @JanSz 917 wrote:

    Suzan Sommers have operated breast cancer.
    she uses Growth Hormone injections

    Suzan Somers uses 0.08mg=0.24iu/day
    (page 66 of her book Breakthru)
    ============================================

    BTW, there are also doctors around prescribing very high doses of testosterone to operated prostate cancer patients and are getting good results (patient lives and have low PSA).

    Each person along with their doctor needs to consider the risks versus benefits of any treatment. Nothing is guaranteed with any treatment. There are always risks. Even an aspirin has many risks. Each person has their own level of risk they are willing to take. Each physician has their level of risk they are willing to take. If the risk is too high for either one, it is a no go for that particular treatment.

    For example, every surgery has a risk for death. The first person that died in front of me was a patient whose surgeon was trying to remove tumor that was growing on the outside of his thigh. It seemed simple enough. But he died suddenly of anaphylactic shock from the anesthetic medication injected near tumor by the surgeon at the start of the procedure. Alive one minute, dead the next. Just as suddenly as that.

    After breast cancer treatment and remission of 5 years – one of the rule of thumb that the cancer is gone – some patients with their doctors may decide the benefits of growth hormone treatment and other hormone replacement therapies outweigh the risks. That’s O.K. with me when they go through the process of risk management and decide to go ahead with the treatment if that is what they decide is best for them. From my perspective, I would have to take each case on an individual basis.

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