Blood Results

[MetalMX]

I have some new blood test results back.

Im a 20 year old male. Problems with ongoing debilitating fatigue, muscle weakness, muscle loss, poor appetite, fat goes around the waist, poor erections/premature ejaculation.

SHBG – 85 * (11 – 71)
DHEA’s – 5.4 ( 2.2 – 15 )
Free Testosterone 30.4 ( 25.0 – 120.0 )
Progesterone – 1 nmol/L (0.9 – 3.9)

Ha1c – 5.4% (4.0 – 6.0)

AST – 32 (<35)
ALT – 31 (<40)
GGT – (<40)
Alkaline Phosphate – 100 (50 – 130)
Protein – 78 (65- 85)
Albumin – 49 (38 – 50)
Globulin – 29 (22 – 38)

IGF (Somatomedin C) – 17 (17 – 42)

Ceruloplasmin – 0.21 g/L – (0.19 – 0.44)
Copper – 18.8 umol/L – (12.5 – 24.0)
Zinc – 10.9 umol/L (10.0 – 20.0)
Selenium – 1.80 umol/L (0.80 – 1.90)

T.S.H – 2.7 mTU/L (0.5 – 4.5)
FT4 – 10 pmol/L (10 – 20)
FT3 – 4.7 pmol/L (3.5 – 6.0)

I am still waiting on:

Total t3
Total t4
TBG
Reverse t3
E2 sensitive
Estrone
Dht

I wrote Total T4 and Total T3 and they still don’t f**king test for these!!! WTF!!! these stupid dumb laboratories think its no longer used?!?!…. 😡

I’ve spent too much time trying to increase my T naturally when i clearly need TRT.

I have Low T, High SHBG, Assuming High E, FT4 still too low.

Im on 100mg of armour.

[hardasnails1973]

Zinc is probably making your IGF-1 low, testosterone, e2 probably high, high reverse t3
My next step would identify RBC fatty acid metabolism to look at the arachidonic acid which is probably extremely low. Low AA is usually a sign of hyperinsulin sensitivity or prolonged insulin resistance.

Until your thyroid and or insulin imbalances are corrected igf-1 levels will remain low as well as zinc levels.

[MetalMX]

@hardasnails1973 1568 wrote:

Zinc is probably making your IGF-1 low, testosterone, e2 probably high, high reverse t3
My next step would identify RBC fatty acid metabolism to look at the arachidonic acid which is probably extremely low. Low AA is usually a sign of hyperinsulin sensitivity or prolonged insulin resistance.

Until your thyroid and or insulin imbalances are corrected igf-1 levels will remain low as well as zinc levels.

Insulin Resistance is possible. I have a poor appetite and anything i do eat tends to go around the waist.

I believe coeliac is undiagnosed in me, i feel severely ill if i eat gluten containing foods, + its also linked to hashimotos thyroiditis and insulin resistance.

ALSO coeliac is linked to peripheral neuropathy which my neurologist said it looks like i have peripheral neuropathy. Which would explain some of my symptoms of tingling on arms legs, muscle weakness, what looks like atrophy in my arms.

I am looking at TRT this would increase IGF-1, this would help increase nerve regeneration as well as reduce insulin resistance. It would certainly be helpful. I am just not ever going to have high normal T alone.

[hardasnails1973]

@MetalMX 1581 wrote:

Insulin Resistance is possible. I have a poor appetite and anything i do eat tends to go around the waist.

I believe coeliac is undiagnosed in me, i feel severely ill if i eat gluten containing foods, + its also linked to hashimotos thyroiditis and insulin resistance.

ALSO coeliac is linked to peripheral neuropathy which my neurologist said it looks like i have peripheral neuropathy. Which would explain some of my symptoms of tingling on arms legs, muscle weakness, what looks like atrophy in my arms.

I am looking at TRT this would increase IGF-1, this would help increase nerve regeneration as well as reduce insulin resistance. It would certainly be helpful. I am just not ever going to have high normal T alone.

TRT is short term solution
Correcting and idenitfying insulin resistance would be long term solution
Enterolabs does a good celiac test ..

[MetalMX]

@hardasnails1973 1583 wrote:

TRT is short term solution
Correcting and idenitfying insulin resistance would be long term solution
Enterolabs does a good celiac test ..

Well with Increased IGF-1 and T levels insulin resistance can be reduced. TRT would be a long term solution. If i already have to take thyroid for the rest of my life i might as well try TRT.

But i think its more likely my hormones are just too low, T, IGF-1, Thyroid and RT3 maybe higher. Metabolism is too slow, not enough hormonal signaling.

Don’t you agree that low Testosterone which causes lowered IGF-1 can cause insulin resistance to some degree?

Im not overweight. Im 190lbs at 6″3-6″4. So i doubt i am in the IR category.

I think its more likely that long-term untreated hashimoto’s caused damaged to my nerves. And the low hormones set the body up for problems.

In regards to insulin resistance my mum has fatty liver of unknown cause. Which gets me thinking that she could have hereditary insulin resistance…

[hardasnails1973]

@MetalMX 1588 wrote:

Well with Increased IGF-1 and T levels insulin resistance can be reduced. TRT would be a long term solution. If i already have to take thyroid for the rest of my life i might as well try TRT.

But i think its more likely my hormones are just too low, T, IGF-1, Thyroid and RT3 maybe higher. Metabolism is too slow, not enough hormonal signaling.

Don’t you agree that low Testosterone which causes lowered IGF-1 can cause insulin resistance to some degree?

Im not overweight. Im 190lbs at 6″3-6″4. So i doubt i am in the IR category.

I think its more likely that long-term untreated hashimoto’s caused damaged to my nerves. And the low hormones set the body up for problems.

In regards to insulin resistance my mum has fatty liver of unknown cause. Which gets me thinking that she could have hereditary insulin resistance…

Treating the thyroid in your situation may resolve your Testosterone.
One guy 35 had low thyroid treated with t-3 only (which is not the best solution). His testostrerone went from 250 to 697 as he just got blood work done by treating the thyroid to proper levels. He had hashimots and was on 90 mcgs of t-3 only.
90% of his symptoms are resolved from past 2 years in less then 6 months. If this was the best solution time will tell.

[MetalMX]

@hardasnails1973 1591 wrote:

Treating the thyroid in your situation may resolve your Testosterone.
One guy 35 had low thyroid treated with t-3 only (which is not the best solution). His testostrerone went from 250 to 697 as he just got blood work done by treating the thyroid to proper levels. He had hashimots and was on 90 mcgs of t-3 only.
90% of his symptoms are resolved from past 2 years in less then 6 months. If this was the best solution time will tell.

You could be right.

I don’t work well with T4. Armour Either.

Im using SRT3 right now, well its only been a day but i don’t feel cold right now and theirs prominent veins in my hands all good signs.

Also my mitochondria was shut down on that last test if you remember but i still don’t know exactly why, i speculate untreated thyroid all this time and hidden infection. Now that the thyroid is being treated it should have improved.

[AlexanderDenmark]

hardasnails

Why is using T3 only bad?

I think doctors need to accept that some patients can have chronic reverse T3 dominance. It may not be accepted by conventional doctors, but conventional doctors don’t even believe that reverse T3, adrenal fatigue exists. that T4/t3 are crappy drugs, that TSH and T4 are the only thyroid tests that matter. Conventional medicince has ultimately failed badly in endocrinology.

I know that when I take armour or thyrolar, I feel so bad, I can hardly exist. They definitly make me more hypo. My adrenals are supported and all. The only reason I can think of is reverse T3 dominance. Right now, I am taking no thyroid meds, because armour and thyrolar make me feel worse. Waiting for T3 to come in. Surely taking T3 only for about 2 months isn’t so bad a solulotion is it? Instead of being condemned to a life of hypothyroidism.

[MetalMX]

@AlexanderDenmark 1637 wrote:

hardasnails

Why is using T3 only bad?

I think doctors need to accept that some patients can have chronic reverse T3 dominance. It may not be accepted by conventional doctors, but conventional doctors don’t even believe that reverse T3, adrenal fatigue exists. that T4/t3 are crappy drugs, that TSH and T4 are the only thyroid tests that matter. Conventional medicince has ultimately failed badly in endocrinology.

I know that when I take armour or thyrolar, I feel so bad, I can hardly exist. They definitly make me more hypo. My adrenals are supported and all. The only reason I can think of is reverse T3 dominance. Right now, I am taking no thyroid meds, because armour and thyrolar make me feel worse. Waiting for T3 to come in. Surely taking T3 only for about 2 months isn’t so bad a solulotion is it? Instead of being condemned to a life of hypothyroidism.

Screw mainstream doctors and their beliefs i couldn’t care less if they didn’t “believe” in it, it’s their loss. Luckily we are people who know how to take our health into our own hands and get better. And nobody knows their own body like they do.

T3 only works fine. Cytomel by itself i don’t know maybe it could work for you but for me it caused chest pain and not feeling well. Slow release T3 on the other hand is working good.

I am going by symptoms and adjusting doses accordingly. Armour worked for me at first but then not so well and my temps are around 35.5 which is too damn low. So thats why i added SRT3. If after using armour and SRT3 together and still no improvements then i will just use SRT3 on it own.

After using SRT3 for one day on its own my temps went from 35.2 to 36.1C in the morning.

After adding armour today they dropped… its obvious what i need to do.

[AlexanderDenmark]

Actually it is our loss. We spend many years in complete misery and ill health due to the fact that these doctors don’t listen to us and don’t know how to diagnose and treat these problems.

We learn the hard way that we have to do everything our self and learn every thing that the doctors havn’t learnt. We are a select minority who know how teach our selves and seek knowledge. I can imagine all those millions who are undiagnosed who live with all sorts of healths problems and chronic depression or scizophrenia, all those thousands who commit suicide because they can no longer take it and don’t know what to do, all those who are disbelieved by doctors and friends to be hypochondriacs or malingeres.

It’s our loss big time.

Finally due to my own research and doctor hertoghe, I’m now diagnosed with hypothryoidim, adrenal fatigue, low testosterone and low melatonin.

If I hadn’t taken matters into my own hands, I would still be picking at straws and probably comitted suicide. I feel that bad. But I had to learn everything myself and pay for to. And not listen to all the doctors, family and friends who thought I was a hypochondriac. It can really make you bitter.

[MetalMX]

@AlexanderDenmark 1642 wrote:

Actually it is our loss. We spend many years in complete misery and ill health due to the fact that these doctors don’t listen to us and don’t know how to diagnose and treat these problems.

We learn the hard way that we have to do everything our self and learn every thing that the doctors havn’t learnt. We are a select minority who know how teach our selves and seek knowledge. I can imagine all those millions who are undiagnosed who live with all sorts of healths problems and chronic depression or scizophrenia, all those thousands who commit suicide because they can no longer take it and don’t know what to do, all those who are disbelieved by doctors and friends to be hypochondriacs or malingeres.

It’s our loss big time.

Finally due to my own research and doctor hertoghe, I’m now diagnosed with hypothryoidim, adrenal fatigue, low testosterone and low melatonin.

If I hadn’t taken matters into my own hands, I would still be picking at straws and probably comitted suicide. I feel that bad. But I had to learn everything myself and pay for to. And not listen to all the doctors, family and friends who thought I was a hypochondriac. It can really make you bitter.

I have the same problems hashimoto’s disease, low T, low melatonin, low igf-1.

Oh and mercury poisoning is the icing on the cake with i am finally about to do a urine challenge test for.

I had about 50 different symptoms now they are at least reduced to 15 all due to my determination and effort and hours upon hours of research.

On the contrary i had family support the whole time. Although i am only 20 and family just wanted to be supportive.

[MetalMX]

I am in a state of confusion.

I started T gel and Transdermal Chyrsin.

My new blood work before starting this which i just got today and shocked to see decent T:

Testosterone Total: 22 nmol/l (8.3 – 29)

SHBG: 109 nmol/l (11 – 71)

Oestradiol: 58 (50 – 150)

So my T is relatively normal. SHBG is huge, Free T is low-normal. E is normal.

I am also on Slow release T3. Now this hasn’t been working and i have been still on low temps with 35.3 max 35.8C. Now i tried a bit of Isocort yesterday and felt fantastic and my muscles filled out. Maybe i don’t need TRT after all, as usual HAN is/was right 😮

He was suspecting a underlying adrenal insufficency and now so am i which was hidden due to low thyroid all these years. I got all the low cortisol symptoms flaring up after i started Thyroid replacement for my hashimoto’s.

Maybe my suspected mercury/gadolinium poisoning is involved…

Hair mineral Analysis – November 2008 – Mercury 2.4 H (0.0 – 0.6)

March 2008 – Mercury 1.41 H (<== 1.32), Gadolinium 0.0184 H (<==0.0005)

Sulfur – 39.854 L (41,781 – 60,894)

So why is my SHBG so high?

HAN can you connect the dots…. Or maybe Dr. Mariano could add a comment.

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