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    Jean
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    thnak you for your experience with this theory

    Vitamin D Deficiency Study Raises New Questions About Disease And Supplements

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    ScienceDaily (Jan. 27, 2008) — Low blood levels of vitamin D have long been associated with disease, and the assumption has been that vitamin D supplements may protect against disease. However, this new research demonstrates that ingested vitamin D is immunosuppressive and that low blood levels of vitamin D may be actually a result of the disease process. Supplementation may make the disease worse.

    In a new report Trevor Marshall, Ph.D., professor at Australia’s Murdoch University School of Biological Medicine and Biotechnology, explains how increased vitamin D intake affects much more than just nutrition or bone health. The paper explains how the Vitamin D Nuclear Receptor (VDR) acts in the repression or transcription of hundreds of genes, including genes associated with diseases ranging from cancers to multiple sclerosis.

    “The VDR is at the heart of innate immunity, being responsible for expression of most of the antimicrobial peptides, which are the body’s ultimate response to infection,” Marshall said.

    “Molecular biology is now forcing us to re-think the idea that a low measured value of vitamin D means we simply must add more to our diet. Supplemental vitamin D has been used for decades, and yet the epidemics of chronic disease, such as heart disease and obesity, are just getting worse.”

    “Our disease model has shown us why low levels of vitamin D are observed in association with major and chronic illness,” Marshall added. “Vitamin D is a secosteroid hormone, and the body regulates the production of all it needs. In fact, the use of supplements can be harmful, because they suppress the immune system so that the body cannot fight disease and infection effectively.”

    Marshall’s research has demonstrated how ingested vitamin D can actually block VDR activation, the opposite effect to that of Sunshine. Instead of a positive effect on gene expression, Marshall reported that his own work, as well as the work of others, shows that quite nominal doses of ingested vitamin D can suppress the proper operation of the immune system. It is a different metabolite, a secosteroid hormone called 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, which activates the VDR to regulate the expression of the genes. Under conditions that exist in infection or inflammation, the body automatically regulates its production of all the vitamin D metabolites, including 25-hydroxyvitamin D, the metabolite which is usually measured to indicate vitamin D status.

    Vitamin D deficiency, long interpreted as a cause of disease, is more likely the result of the disease process, and increasing intake of vitamin D often makes the disease worse. “Dysregulation of vitamin D has been observed in many chronic diseases, including many thought to be autoimmune,” said J.C. Waterhouse, Ph.D., lead author of a book chapter on vitamin D and chronic disease.

    “We have found that vitamin D supplementation, even at levels many consider desirable, interferes with recovery in these patients.”

    “We need to discard the notion that vitamin D affects a disease state in a simple way,” Marshall said. “Vitamin D affects the expression of over 1,000 genes, so we should not expect a simplistic cause and effect between vitamin D supplementation and disease. The comprehensive studies are just not showing that supplementary vitamin D makes people healthier.”

    Journal reference: Marshall TG. Vitamin D discovery outpaces FDA decision making. Bioessays. 2008 Jan 15;30(2):173-182 [Epub ahead of print] Online ISSN: 1521-1878 Print ISSN: 0265-9247 PMID: 18200565
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    Jean
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    @Jean 3075 wrote:

    I have some answers

    http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/329/7457/112-b#68048

    So do I LOL
    When taking vitamin D huge dosages >5,000 ius can drive seum retinol down drastically which can affect the immune system. Every thing must be kept in balance this is where many dr’s screw up !!

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    Jean
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    @hardasnails1973 3081 wrote:

    So do I LOL
    When taking vitamin D huge dosages >5,000 ius can drive seum retinol down drastically which can affect the immune system. Every thing must be kept in balance this is where many dr’s screw up !!

    Thank, I take vit A also, My level of D is 99 after 2 month on 10 000 IU of vit D.
    Do you think it’s best to take a break or to take a small dosage of D?

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    @Jean 3082 wrote:

    Thank, I take vit A also, My level of D is 99 after 2 month on 10 000 IU of vit D.
    Do you think it’s best to take a break or to take a small dosage of D?

    What is the range
    I like 65-90 range

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    pmgamer18
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    Same with me as you know 10,000 IU’s a day gets me at 82 top of rage for D is 100. I feel as long as your not over the top of the range your not going to have a problem. Some say you need vit K with D I don’t feel we need to take K if we eat right.
    @hardasnails1973 3089 wrote:

    What is the range
    I like 65-90 range

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    K has to be taken with caution because people that may take blood thinners such as coumadin, ect.

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