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    jasonshadow
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    I can’t seem to find a B-complex w/o folic acid anywhere. I’m trying to reduce the amount of pills I take daily so I do not want to take all B Vits separately

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    The best vitamin I use for clients is maxstress B by quantum labs…Its the most natural b you can get and its well absorbed and has all the cofactors of all b vitamins.

    i use folinic and methyl/hydrox b-12 for undermethylation since elevated nitric oxide from inflammation is the primary reason you are low methylation in the first place. Silent inflammation is a killer in amercia and I’m just starting to put the pieces together thanks to Dr M and his knowledge of cytokines.

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    jasonshadow
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    Thanks Han! After looking up maxstress B it does contain Folic Acid so wouldn’t this a negative for a undermethalter?

    @hardasnails1973 2297 wrote:

    The best vitamin I use for clients is maxstress B by quantum labs…Its the most natural b you can get and its well absorbed and has all the cofactors of all b vitamins.

    i use folinic and methyl/hydrox b-12 for undermethylation since elevated nitric oxide from inflammation is the primary reason you are low methylation in the first place. Silent inflammation is a killer in amercia and I’m just starting to put the pieces together thanks to Dr M and his knowledge of cytokines.

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    @jasonshadow 2302 wrote:

    Thanks Han! After looking up maxstress B it does contain Folic Acid so wouldn’t this a negative for a undermethalter?

    I used to contain methyl folate. If its a natural folate then from food base then it is the converted form. This is the one that i recommend..

    http://www.healthbeyondhype.com/max-stress-b-nanoplex-p-181.html

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    jasonshadow
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    What about Sam-E?

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    one needs to be careful so they do not get the cycle spining out of control. In people that are overtrained I suggest sam-e at 200 mgs 2 times a day to help replenish gluthione levels and the results have been very promising especailly for depression and anxiety. Again every ones biochemistry is different. I recommend starting out with 200 mgs for 2-3 days and see how they feel then increase it to 200 mgs 2 times a day. If any abnormal reaction it is stopped immediately.

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    jasonshadow
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    @hardasnails1973 2334 wrote:

    one needs to be careful so they do not get the cycle spining out of control. In people that are overtrained I suggest sam-e at 200 mgs 2 times a day to help replenish gluthione levels and the results have been very promising especailly for depression and anxiety. Again every ones biochemistry is different. I recommend starting out with 200 mgs for 2-3 days and see how they feel then increase it to 200 mgs 2 times a day. If any abnormal reaction it is stopped immediately.

    I have been on Sam-E for about 5 days now and feeling f-ing great. I’m loving the SamE!!

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    @jasonshadow 2353 wrote:

    I have been on Sam-E for about 5 days now and feeling f-ing great. I’m loving the SamE!!

    Sam-e is one of the best supplements for depression provided that one has proper biochemistry. Most overtrained athletes respond really well.

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    jasonshadow
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    @hardasnails1973 2334 wrote:

    one needs to be careful so they do not get the cycle spining out of control. In people that are overtrained I suggest sam-e at 200 mgs 2 times a day to help replenish gluthione levels and the results have been very promising especailly for depression and anxiety. Again every ones biochemistry is different. I recommend starting out with 200 mgs for 2-3 days and see how they feel then increase it to 200 mgs 2 times a day. If any abnormal reaction it is stopped immediately.

    I tried your recommendation of 200mg twice per day but found that I felt better with 400mg in the AM. I might try an additional 200mg later in they day but that might get a little expensive. (I defintely feel an increase in Dopamine)

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    jasonshadow
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    Well after about 7-10 days of feeling really good I started to feel out of it. My cognition was just out of it. Very strange stuff. So I got off the Sam-E and now I’m feeling much better.

    I just don’t get it.

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