@hardasnails1973 1928 wrote:

I have seen peoples ACTH go all over the place. I even had one person that was taking a nasal spray before bed that tripled his ACTH but not his cortisol serums. The body is a very tricky organism so one has to expect surprises. There are some people that are paradoxal which go against the grain. This condition makes them even more difficult to treat.

Haha thats interesting.

In regards to saliva cortisol testing i recently did mine when i was quite unactive in the day mostly at home does this have any relevance? would a active day have been better to do the test?

@hardasnails1973 1931 wrote:

Yes it could very easily affect your levels. The reason I recommend to do it one a day that is normal is because it will give a better indication.

Well i do have extra pack of the saliva test they gave me and the one i did was yesterday although i didn’t post it yet because it is saturday today and it can be posted only on mondays so what you reckon chuck it out and redo on more normal day?

Also a lot of my symptoms have been improved with Mito-Cell support. With this product i find much better energy, ability to think, ability to digest/eat foods, and general well-being relaxation. Since i tested and we found Mitochondrial Dysfunction this could yet be another piece of the puzzle maybe a main piece.

Off-topic are their any mitochondrial products you would highly recommend to someone like me?

I am trying to look at whole picture like you mentioned i try to focus on multiple issues which i think are the main ones:

Methylation
Thyroid/Adrenals
Nutrients (Vitamins, Minerals, EFA’s)
Gut function – Probiotics, Digestive enzymes, Oxbile, Betaine HCL.
Mitochondria
Mercury (Heavy Metal Poisoning)
Food sensitivity/intolerance/Coeliac – Gluten/Diary avoidance
More Quality sleep of sufficient duration

I think these are the main issues for most people with health problems anyway.

So basically i am using SAMe, P5P and Methylcobalamin for methylation support, nutrients including a comprehensive multi-vitamin, hemp seed oil, EVCO and nut butters for fats. Mito-Cell for mitochondrial functioning, the chelation product for mercury which we talked about which i’m awaiting to arrive and thats it.

Sometimes i am still amazed at wtf people are doing at doctors offices when they come in with their complains.
All i see is if a person comes in a tooth ache they are thrown a med, back ache heres another, Weight gain – well why don’t you eat less when that person could be eating very little and so forth… very few doctors are getting to the root causes these days and people are becoming sicker and sicker.

What has happened to me now is that i switched from Armour to Slow Release T3 thinking this would be better boy was i wrong.

I was on it for about 3-4 weeks. And i began having the same symptoms as before i began thyroid replacement now even worsening muscle weakness/muscle loss and a feeling of losing my mind and all interest in activities and severe tingling in arms and legs and back of my head even down the spine. I can trace this back to hypothyroid neuropathy. I only hope my nerves can recover.

Slow Release T3 is an absolute crock of shit, it doesn’t even work whatsoever it’s like taking placebo/Sugar pills, which could have killed me if i didn’t figure out what was going on.

Just more stress on my already weak body.

😡