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September 11, 2009 at 2:42 pm #1327keithdolbyMember
HI,
I noticed that iodoral contains 12.5 mg of iodine where as the rda for iodine is only 125mcg. I also recentely saw that lef.org sells a sea kelp iodine that contains 1mg of iodine. The 12.5 mg in iodoral seems somewhat excessive to me, where as the 1mg in the sea kelp seems like a more reasonable dose. Is there a reason why there is 12.5 mg in Iodoral, and can this dose be too high? The 1mg seems like a better dose, but was just wanting some of yall’s opinion on this as I know many of yall like iodoral. Thanks
September 11, 2009 at 3:50 pm #3432hardasnails1973Member@keithdolby 1703 wrote:
HI,
I noticed that iodoral contains 12.5 mg of iodine where as the rda for iodine is only 125mcg. I also recentely saw that lef.org sells a sea kelp iodine that contains 1mg of iodine. The 12.5 mg in iodoral seems somewhat excessive to me, where as the 1mg in the sea kelp seems like a more reasonable dose. Is there a reason why there is 12.5 mg in Iodoral, and can this dose be too high? The 1mg seems like a better dose, but was just wanting some of yall’s opinion on this as I know many of yall like iodoral. Thanks
Average consumption in japan of iodine is 13 mgs and they have lowest risk of breast and other cancers. So they must be on to something. Plus if you are low in spot test one can only imagine what is in tissue level.
September 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm #3436keithdolbyMember@hardasnails1973 1704 wrote:
Average consumption in japan of iodine is 13 mgs and they have lowest risk of breast and other cancers. So they must be on to something. Plus if you are low in spot test one can only imagine what is in tissue level.
Would you recommened iodoral over sea kelp iodine from lef.org for those who need iodine? Iodoral seems quite expensive, after all iodine is very cheap to make and spending 50$ for a 180bottle seems too expensive. That is one of the reasons why I was asking if 1mg of sea kelp iodine would be of benefit becasue the price is lower. Thanks
September 18, 2009 at 7:27 pm #3440wapf fanMemberGoogle Lugol’s Iodine. You can order it online it comes in a little bottle with a dropper. Usually 2 drops will give you 12.5 mg-just right for an adult, one drop for kids. It is around $15 a bottle and lasts a long time. You can take it in a little water (be sure to include yogurt or something probiotic daily and not at the same time is the idodine) or you can put the 2 drops in the palm of your hand and let it be absorbed.
September 23, 2009 at 2:22 am #3438MebigusmallMemberis lugols as good as iodoral?
September 25, 2009 at 5:00 pm #3441wapf fanMemberYes, only difference I am aware of is just that one is a tablet and one is liquid. So the tablet is easier to travel with.
September 26, 2009 at 1:26 am #3433hardasnails1973Member@Mebigusmall 1843 wrote:
is lugols as good as iodoral?
Iodoral is used for people that have gastric issues with lugols. Other then that its virtually the same. Lugols can be used in water to kill bacteria and parasites in matter of seconds. Lugols for some people has a nasty taste and some prefer the pills. The choice is really up to the person but they both clincal work.
Kelp capsules can contain high levels of mercury and other toxic metals so i would recommend staying away from them .
September 26, 2009 at 3:10 pm #3437keithdolbyMemberIf one goes and donates blood or plasma, I know they will sometimes use iodine to clean the area for drawing. This type of iodine I believe kills everything on the skin. Would the lugols have the potentional to kill to much of the good bacteria in the GI tract? I think people often think that killing bacteria is helpful, but in reality you really dont want to kill off your good bacteria either.
September 28, 2009 at 4:12 am #3442wapf fanMemberThat’s right. So when you take iodine internally you must also consume plenty of probiotics like yogurt, kefir etc. (and not at the same time as the iodine). You can also use Lugol’s topically, say on the palm of your hand, although Dr.M says it’s hard to say how much is really absorbed that way.
September 28, 2009 at 12:13 pm #3434hardasnails1973MemberYes iodoral can kill bacteria even the good ones and one needs a good probiotic. I recommend home made kefir or yogurt from goats milk to give the best natural increase of good bacteria. Store bought yogurt sits on the shelve and over time good bacteria can decrease as much as 80%. The label states what was in there when it was made but not what is left when it is consumed.
December 2, 2009 at 7:53 am #3429DrMariano2Participant@wapf fan 1898 wrote:
That’s right. So when you take iodine internally you must also consume plenty of probiotics like yogurt, kefir etc. (and not at the same time as the iodine). You can also use Lugol’s topically, say on the palm of your hand, although Dr.M says it’s hard to say how much is really absorbed that way.
One can obtain a 24-hour urine iodine measurement to determine how much is being absorbed.
Iodine can be taken orally or transdermally.
Oral iodine (via Iodoral or kelp or Lugol’s iodine in water) is a convenient way to take iodine. However, if a person has gut problems and immune system problems, this is problematic since oral iodine also may kill off the good bacteria in the gut which serve an immune system function. Human beings are symbiotic organisms with millions of bacteria lining the intestines to help prevent infections. Depending on the person, taking probiotics may help replenish the bacteria lost to oral iodine. However, this isn’t always the case and the clinician has to keep this in mind. Without adequate good bacteria in the gut, the immune system may become excessively active, causing problems in one’s health. Thus, oral iodine potentially can have pro-inflammatory effects which can outweigh its anti-inflammatorhy effects (the outcome depends on the particular patient involved) if adequate gut bacteria cannot be maintained. Note that the average healthy adult gut carries about 4.5 pounds of bacteria. And half of the dry weight of one’s well-formed stool should be bacteria.
Transdermal iodine (aside from being very inexpensive) is less convenient to use but does avoid gut problems that may occur with oral iodine. By doing so, this emphasizes iodine’s anti-inflammatory effects such as its strong anti-oxidant activity, its ability to reduce acidity, etc.
December 9, 2009 at 1:15 am #3439MebigusmallMemberCan iodine help in the prostate in other ways? such as to rid chronic inflammation or chronic prostatitus, where bacteria supposedly hides deep in the prostate or is inflamed for unknown reasons.
Also I have read a lot of people with this type of euro-gentital discomfort also have symptoms of adrenal axis disregulation. So I was wondering if some kind of infection could hide and not be detected by lab tests but cause HPA axis issues. I also read that it could “clog” receptors or something to that affect and keep some sex/thyroid hormones from being used properly but appear normal.
December 9, 2009 at 5:48 pm #3435wonderingMemberIs there a specific kind of transdermal Iodine or can you just purchase it at the drugstore…th kind for disenfecting?
If so, ho much do you apply?
thank you.
@DrMariano 2240 wrote:
One can obtain a 24-hour urine iodine measurement to determine how much is being absorbed.
Iodine can be taken orally or transdermally.
Oral iodine (via Iodoral or kelp or Lugol’s iodine in water) is a convenient way to take iodine. However, if a person has gut problems and immune system problems, this is problematic since oral iodine also may kill off the good bacteria in the gut which serve an immune system function. Human beings are symbiotic organisms with millions of bacteria lining the intestines to help prevent infections. Depending on the person, taking probiotics may help replenish the bacteria lost to oral iodine. However, this isn’t always the case and the clinician has to keep this in mind. Without adequate good bacteria in the gut, the immune system may become excessively active, causing problems in one’s health. Thus, oral iodine potentially can have pro-inflammatory effects which can outweigh its anti-inflammatorhy effects (the outcome depends on the particular patient involved) if adequate gut bacteria cannot be maintained. Note that the average healthy adult gut carries about 4.5 pounds of bacteria. And half of the dry weight of one’s well-formed stool should be bacteria.
Transdermal iodine (aside from being very inexpensive) is less convenient to use but does avoid gut problems that may occur with oral iodine. By doing so, this emphasizes iodine’s anti-inflammatory effects such as its strong anti-oxidant activity, its ability to reduce acidity, etc.
January 3, 2010 at 4:58 pm #3443jasonshadowMemberI’m 99.99% positive that Iodoral is causing my acne. I never put two and two together until I ran out and just didn’t re-order for awhile and then my skin cleared up. Once I got back on Iodoral my acne flared back up.
February 5, 2010 at 7:04 am #3444eda_godMemberI don’t see why these formulations have both iodine and iodide.
Lugol’s was probably developed as a multipurpose formula that could
be used either as a disinfectant or iodine supliment.
The iodine in seaweed that the Japanese eat must be in the iodide form. (sodium iodide).
Iodine (the element) is useful as a topical disinfectant but if applied to the skin
or taken orally probably kills some of our cells as well since it is a fairly strong oxidizer.
It seems that the risk of toxic effects as well as problems with killing helpful bacteria in the
intestine would be reduced by simply taking the iodide form. -
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